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11/15/2001 1:58 AM
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As a smart alec I would call it the sum. I would scorn to call it "the bottom line".
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11/15/2001 8:00 AM
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The sumtotal?
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(A long line of figures eh.....reminds me of when I volunteered to judge the local Lions Club's fashion parade......on the basis that I was good with figures!!)
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11/15/2001 2:40 PM
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Dear stales: I didn't use "sum total" because I thought it would be tautological. But when I looked in my dictionary just now it gives "sum total" and points out that it is the total of a series of sums. Depending on the method of adding. If I don't use calculator, I add the units column, etc. So this aleck outsmarted himself.
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11/15/2001 3:14 PM
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Well, keeping in line with the "Footnotes" thread title, I thought you might like to know that AHD defines "footing" as the sum of a column of figures, a use of footing I had never heard before.
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11/15/2001 4:16 PM
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I see no merit in that definition.
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11/15/2001 4:23 PM
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foot, v. - 4 a : to add up b : to pay or stand credit for <foot the bill>
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I wonder how long the US must remain on a war footing.
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11/15/2001 9:13 PM
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Just to answer your question about the name of the sewing machine with the foot pedal. The old ones built around 1900 were called Treadle Machines and they take some coordination to operate but they are fun if you can get the parts to maintain it.
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11/15/2001 10:39 PM
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Thanks, Satin, for the name of the treadle sewing machine.
Off hand, I don't think tread has been mentioned here at all, so that's a good addition.
wwh, I'm sorry you don't like footing for a sum of a long column of figures, but I like do like it although hardly anyone in this world would understand me if I used it, so it's destined to be a WAD word and probably nothing else save in my dreams. Bon soir...
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11/15/2001 11:15 PM
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Dear WW: my favorite pastime is bitching about dictionaries.
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11/16/2001 12:08 AM
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And, since we haven't gotten into tread and variations other than the treadle machine, there's also the treadmill. And, speaking of treading, did you realize that that's the verb for copulation by a male bird? wwh, there really is a lot of fun to be found in reading the dictionary, in spite of its occasionally bitchiness... Also, treading water, or walking in water... And then there's those who tramp and those who trample... (When you think of tramping around, betcha' never thought of tramping on the trampoline! Which, for some odd reason, reminds me of a kindergartner I once taught. I held up a tambourine and asked, "What is the name of this instrument?" All the hands went up; in kindergarten all the hands always go up. I called on a particularly vigorously waving hand, and the child to which it was attached answered confidently, "A tangerine!") Edit: I just found another bird foot word:
zygodactyl - ( )
Having two toes pointing forward and two backwardshttp://www.islandnet.com/~egbird/dict/z.htm ...still looking for an ornithologist
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11/16/2001 12:20 AM
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wwh: Here's all I could find on anichnogram on Google: Here, in this book, is where you will find rhyming words like "flavicomous" and "auricomous" which refer to yellow hair and golden hair or "anichnogram" and "pelmatogram" which has to do with a footprint. Their definitions are listed in the glossary in the back of the book.from: "Words to Rhyme With" by Willard R. Espy http://www.epinions.com/book-review-78D5-7752225-3A2E2B97-prod1It's probably the same url you encountered. However, I must note that it's a great Scrabble word to play upon gram. Seven letters added and all those bonus points, but it's probably not in the lexicon used for championship games, alas.... DubDub PS: In Googling hamble, which resulted in nothing edifying, I came across the earliest known form of Egyptian amputation. And, since it involved the toe and a prosthetic toe, thought you might like reading about it on: http://www.sciencenet.org.uk/slup/CuttingEdge/Jan01/toe.html
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11/16/2001 2:30 AM
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pseudopod/pseudopodium = a stretch, but good to include among these footnotes as a prime examaple of a foot-not. Kudos for foot-not, my dear. it's destined to be a WAD word and probably nothing else save in my dreams. Bon soir...But every word here is a WAD word... 
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11/16/2001 4:23 AM
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And don't forget the theatrical footlights!insel, are you there?
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11/16/2001 4:49 AM
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Have we mentioned first footing?
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11/16/2001 4:22 PM
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If we are nimble of foot we could trip the light fantastic-- in the glow of WO'N footlights..
and nimble of foot also leads to nimble toed--
i suppose trip above really means travel, not stumble.. which you could do if you have two left feet
and the next time you see see some one stumble, you can comment "Did you have a nice trip? See you again next fall." which is only polite to say when a mishap has damaged nothing more than their dignity--since it make them laugh, and distracts them from situation.
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11/17/2001 2:55 PM
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and the next time you see see some one stumble, you can comment "Did you have a nice trip? See you again next fall." which is only polite to say when a mishap has damaged nothing more than their dignity--since it make them laugh, and distracts them from situation.
Or next time some one trips : "I didn't realize you were falling for me." (running trippingly for -- ooops! -e)
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11/17/2001 3:39 PM
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speaking of treading, did you realize that that's the verb for copulation by a male bird?
Hence the saying, "Fowls rush in where wise men fear to tread?"
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11/17/2001 4:30 PM
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have we mentioned "toe the line" and "step to it"?
and one particularly apt for WW's original request for words that arise from our most direct connection: "round-heels broad".
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11/17/2001 7:21 PM
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Ah another Flatline... i hid Round heel in my heading about Foot fetish.. (seems to be natural pairing.)
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11/17/2001 8:00 PM
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Hence the saying, "Fowls rush in where wise men fear to tread?"... Geoff...and that line bears repeating, Geoff! Great joke. Said the birdie-she with a headache to the birdie-he, "Don't tread on me!" A cadence in music is something you either dance or march to. Cadence comes from "to fall"--so I wonder whether long time ago, the falling was understood to be the fall of the foot more than the fall of the beat? WordWondering... P.S. Here's a foot fact that I tripped over:
Did you know that there are approximately 250,000 sweat glands in each pair of feet that release nearly a cup of moisture every day?http://www.footcaredirect.com/footfacts.htmlThere's also a little foot quiz on that page. Problem in taking the quiz was reading that there are more joints in the foot than there are bones. What gives here?
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11/18/2001 2:26 PM
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I hope it's ok to paste these heel terms here; there are some great finds that I've put into italics: Heel (v. i.) To lean or tip to one side, as a ship; as, the ship heels aport; the boat heeled over when the squall struck it.
Heel (n.) The hinder part of the foot; sometimes, the whole foot; -- in man or quadrupeds.
Heel (n.) The hinder part of any covering for the foot, as of a shoe, sock, etc.; specif., a solid part projecting downward from the hinder part of the sole of a boot or shoe.
Heel (n.) The latter or remaining part of anything; the closing or concluding part.
Heel (n.) Anything regarded as like a human heel in shape; a protuberance; a knob.
Heel (n.) The part of a thing corresponding in position to the human heel; the lower part, or part on which a thing rests
Heel (n.) The after end of a ship's keel.
Heel (n.) The lower end of a mast, a boom, the bowsprit, the sternpost, etc.
Heel (n.) In a small arm, the corner of the but which is upwards in the firing position.
Heel (n.) The uppermost part of the blade of a sword, next to the hilt.
Heel (n.) The part of any tool next the tang or handle; as, the heel of a scythe.
Heel (n.) Management by the heel, especially the spurred heel; as, the horse understands the heel well.
Heel (n.) The lower end of a timber in a frame, as a post or rafter. In the United States, specif., the obtuse angle of the lower end of a rafter set sloping.
Heel (n.) A cyma reversa; -- so called by workmen.
Heeled (imp. & p. p.) of Heel
Heeling (p. pr. & vb. n.) of Heel
Heel (v. t.) To perform by the use of the heels, as in dancing, running, and the like.
Heel (v. t.) To add a heel to; as, to heel a shoe.
Heel (v. t.) To arm with a gaff, as a cock for fighting.
Heelball (n.) A composition of wax and lampblack, used by shoemakers for polishing, and by antiquaries in copying inscriptions.Personal note by WW: anothr great Scrabble word along with lampblack
Heeler (n.) A cock that strikes well with his heels or spurs.
Heeler (n.) A dependent and subservient hanger-on of a political patron.
Heelless (a.) Without a heel.
Heelpiece (n.) A piece of armor to protect the heels.
Heelpiece (n.) A piece of leather fixed on the heel of a shoe.
Heelpiece (n.) The end Another dubdub comment: could be the last post on a thread, not to be confused with what follows below, a heelpost
Heelpost (n.) The post supporting the outer end of a propeller shaft.
Heelpost (n.) The post to which a gate or door is hinged.
Heelpost (n.) The quoin post of a lock gate.
Heelspur (n.) A slender bony or cartilaginous process developed from the heel bone of bats. It helps to support the wing membranes. See Illust. of Cheiropter.
Heeltap (n.) One of the segments of leather in the heel of a shoe.
Heeltap (n.) A small portion of liquor left in a glass after drinking.
Heeltapped (imp. & p. p.) of Heeltap
Heeltapping (p. pr. & vb. n.) of Heeltap
Heeltap (v. t.) To add a piece of leather to the heel of (a shoe, boot, etc.)
Heeltool (n.) A tool used by turners in metal, having a bend forming a heel near the cutting end.
http://www.mso.anu.edu.au/~ralph/OPTED/v003/wb1913_h.html
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11/18/2001 2:52 PM
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A long time ago I saw a billboard in an Elevated station with an ad for "The All-American Heel", showing a pretty girl exclaiming "I'm in love with the All-American Heel!" Someone had written under that with lipstick in large letters "Tough luck, sister, I married him."
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11/18/2001 4:38 PM
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classicaly (or at least since the victorian) women glow, men perspire, and horses sweat.
but as WW points out: P.S. Here's a foot fact that I tripped over:
Did you know that there are approximately 250,000 sweat glands in each pair of feet that release nearly a cup of moisture every day?
Human are the sweatiest animal on earth. we have more sweat glands, and excrete more sweat than anything else. and needless to say, in this day an age, most of us hardly ever break a sweat.
for more information than you want about sweat, you could search the annals of Natural History Magazine Earlier this year (MAY?) they had an article about sweat.
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11/18/2001 6:06 PM
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of Troy: My mom and dad used to live in Florida and took house guests to the races for a diversion.
My dad always instructed me, "Bet on the horse that has broken out in the biggest sweat. It will usually win." Well, I would bet as instructed, but rarely did my horse win.
Back to those 250,000 sweat glands in the foot: You wouldn't think there would be any room for muscle, tendon and bone with so many glands taking up space.
I like the quote from Leonardo da Vinci on the link I posted above:
(the foot): "a masterpiece of engineering and a work of art"...
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11/18/2001 7:29 PM
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A young lady who spent a summer in Italy in the early thirties told me that she was chided for saying the word "foot" because it was unmentionable in Roman society. j
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11/18/2001 9:27 PM
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And, of course, football, as applied to both American football and soccer.
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11/19/2001 5:17 AM
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A young lady who spent a summer in Italy in the early thirties told me that she was chided for saying the word
"foot" because it was unmentionable in Roman society.
You were around in the year thirty? Man, you ARE old! Oh, but you're only kidding; they didn't use our calendar back then.
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11/19/2001 10:14 AM
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About this entry:
Heel (n.) The part of any tool next the tang or handle; as, the heel of a scythe.
The parts of the scythe interest me. There's a horizontal pin on the scythe that has a name that is identical to the pin that is part of an oar lock. The word escapes me. Does anyone know what the word is? I'll have to look up tholepin because that is ringing a bell, but have to get ready for school now.
Best regards,
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11/19/2001 10:20 AM
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Well, my curiosity got the better of me, and here's what a quick search of tholepin (not to be confused with solepin) turned up: peg, pin, thole, tholepin, rowlock, oarlock -- (a holder attached to the gunwale of a boat that holds the oar in place and acts as a fulcrum for rowing) PART OF: dinghy, dory, rowboat -- (a small boat of shallow draft with cross thwarts for seats and rowlocks for oars with which it is propelled) http://www.notredame.ac.jp/cgi-bin/wn?cmd=wn&word=tholepinI'm fairly certain that either thole or tholepin is also the word for the pin on a scythe. Not certain at all about what relation, if any, the tholepin may have to the heel of the scythe. WW
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11/19/2001 2:34 PM
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I have a memory of seeingthe word "heeler" used as the name for a type of dog in australia. (Confirmation, you OZ'ns?) From the context, I gathered it was a dog used to round up sheep or cattle - presumably by nipping their heels.
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11/19/2001 2:40 PM
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And there was the indigent cobbler who had a bad cold. He went to the Doctor to ask for some relief, so that he could continue to work, but admitted that he had no money to pay for the treatment at the moment. The doctor told him that, without money, he would not provide medicine and to go away, that the cold would soon clear up.
Some months later, the Doctor's shoe lost its heel leather as he was on his way to an important dinner. He was not carrying his wallet, but he went into the shoe shop and asked if he could have an emergency repair, but that he was unable to pay spot cash.
The cobbler, of course, said, "Physician, heel thyself."
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11/19/2001 3:12 PM
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Dear Rod: because nipping is so undesirable in sheep dogs, at least in trials, I wondered about the meaning of the name "heeler". I found a site about Australian Cattle Dogs, and they do bite, but are chosen not to bite hard. And for cattle rustling, they were chosen not to make any noise. http://www.cattledog.com/misc/history.html
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11/19/2001 9:05 PM
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re: the word "foot" because it was unmentionable in Roman society.
thanks dr. bill-- i was thinking about this.. a work friend from years ago was also a biblical scholar and she mentioned that nakedness, and adultry are almost never mentioned directly in the bible, but rather, it would be mentioned that some one had exposed their foot. and this was the short hand for indecent behaviour.. any one else know anything about this? or chapter or verse about playing footsie in the bible?
i wonder if this was why.. and did the biblical scholars pick it up from Roman customs, or did the romans pick it up from the bible...
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11/20/2001 12:55 AM
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When Australian TV used to be broadcast here by satellite there was a police drama series called "Blue Heelers". I never watched it so I can't say more than that. It seemed from the trailers to be set in a fairly rural part of Australia.
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11/20/2001 3:17 AM
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Having been busy lately, I have just discovered and read this thread, and have a number of notes to make to various postings, which I'll get in in one swell foop:
WW: I believe it's slue-foot, not slew-foot, but I could be wrong. Tsuwm, what say you ?
WW: Oedipus means 'pierced foot'. When the infant Oedipus was exposed in his infancy, his heels were pierced. It was by this that he was later exposed as the son of Jocasta, being her husband also. [You like that use of 'exposed' with two different meanings?}
WW: You mention sabots. Were you aware that 'saboteur' comes from 'sabot'? In a European (Belgian, actually, I think) version of the Luddites, workers afraid of being displaced by machines tried to wreck them by throwing their wooden shoes into the machinery.
WW: "Cadence in music" A musical cadence is a usage of two or three related chords at the end of a piece or section to sort of round it off. It's sort of like the rhyming couplet used by Shakespeare to mark the end of a scene or act. The Plegel (not sure of the spelling here) Cadence is the one that sounds like the 'Amen' which used to come at the end of a hymn.
ofTroy: exposing the foot. Businessmen, or businesspersons if you insist, who are contemplating travelling to Arab countries are warned to be careful how they sit when in company of Arabs. Sitting so as to expose the sole of one's foot to an Arab is a deadly insult.
[On second thought, I retract the 'businesspersons'; it can only be businessmen, as I don't believe there are any Arabs who will conduct business with a woman the way we do. Their loss.]
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11/20/2001 3:51 AM
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Dear BobY: I read somewhere fairly recently about a lady journalist who was interviewing a lady intellectual somewhere in southeast Asia, and was surprised to find the lady was scowling at her furiously - because toe of one of her feet was pointing at the lady. Regrettably, the article did not explain why that was a serious breach of good taste.
PS I found a site about, and here is a quote:
The head is the most sacred part of the body, so should not be touched.
The feet are the least sacred, so when sitting they should not point at
anyone - most Thais sit on the floor with their feet tucked under their
bodies behind them. To point, particularly with one’s foot, is extremely
insulting.
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11/20/2001 7:05 AM
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slew-foot (and slew, for that matter) is the usual headword
and slue-foot (and slue) is the variant. F. Scott Fitzgerald spelled it slue-foot; J. B. Priestley used slewfooting. so there's your slew-footed, but equivocal, answer.
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BobyY: Thanks in particular for "pierced foot"--I'd forgotten the translation. tsuwm: And I loved your slew-footed response. Also, about slew, there's a world of definitions, at least a slew of 'em to study for the marshologist. Here's one retrieved: slews n : a large number or amount; "made lots of new friends" [syn: tons, dozens, heaps, lots, piles, scores, stacks, loads, rafts, wads, oodles, gobs, scads, lashings]
Source: WordNet ® 1.6, © 1997 Princeton UniversityCatch a kittenkaboodle or kittenkaslewdle of them at: http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/dict.pl?term=slewsWoodenShoe
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I believe it's slue-foot, not slew-foot, but I could be wrong.
I am conscious of the fact that there is really no "right" or "wrong" in spelling - only usage. But on this side of the pond, I have only come across "slew-footed" (and it isn't a common saying here, anyway.) "Slew" is used to mean, "at an angle to the true direction" - e.g., the car was slewed across the road after it skidded.
"Slewed" is also a slang term for drunk.
(This is quite apart from its meaning as the past of "slay", of course.)
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