moss, I seem to have been strewn on the wrong side of the tree here. although I am one who left the thread that is under discussion, it was mostly because of the length. the inbreeding I don't recall being mentioned. that thread reminded me of a song my daughter used to sing, to great effect when she wanted to annoy:

this is the song that never ends,
it just goes on and on, my friends.
some people started singing it
not knowing what it was
and they’ll continue singing it forever just because,
this is the song that never ends....

<repeat... and repeat... and...>

imagine how pleased I was to get the chance to post this somewhere.