#47188
11/22/2001 5:57 PM
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On the subject of regional pronunciations (and with apologies to Kalamazoolians): The V-A-S-E, by James Jeffrey Roche [1847-1908]. (This is rather vertical, but is not available on-line.)
From the madding crowd they stand apart,
The maidens four and the Work of Art;
And none might tell from sight alone
In which had Culture ripest grown, --
The Gotham Million fair to see,
The Philadelphia Pedigree,
The Boston Mind of azure hue,
Or the soulful Soul from Kalamazoo,--
For all loved Art in a seemly way,
With an earnest soul and a capital A.
Long they worshipped; but no one broke
The sacred stillness, until up spoke
The Western one from the nameless place,
Who blushing said: "What a lovely vace!"
Over three faces a sad smile flew,
And they edged away from Kalamazoo.
But Gotham's haughty soul was stirred
To crush the stranger with on small word.
Deftly hiding reproof in praise,
She cries: "Tis, indeed, a lovely vaze!"
But brief her unworthy triumph when
The lofty one from the home of Penn,
With the consciousness of two grandpapas,
Exclaims: "It is quite a lovely vahs!"
And glances round with an anxious thrill,
Awaiting the word of Beacon Hill.
But the Boson maid smiles courteouslee,
And gently murmurs: "Oh, pardon me!
"I did not catch your remark, because
I was so entranced with that charming vaws!"
Dies erti praegelida
Sinistra quum Bostonia.
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#47189
11/22/2001 9:57 PM
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Well, that was great fun reading, Keiva!
Now at top she's a Boston maid and at the bottom a Boson one--awfully close to bosun or boatswain...especially since she's speaking "courteouslee"...and what's a lee but a windy term of the sea...
I realize that it's the typo that's toppled the words here, but, heh, guys, it's made this poem a shipwrecked surprise...and a mental thing meddlesome minds hold in a vise...
So be ye Bostonian or Boatswainian, some fun's in this particular navicular vernacular.
Thanks for Jeffrey's poetry, K. Hope you don't mind my follying around with it.
Boats regards,
WordWain
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#47190
11/24/2001 5:41 PM
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Pooh-Bah
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Who's on Duh?
Bean, I believe you have just handed me my latest sports insult. Thanks!
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#47191
11/30/2001 11:57 PM
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Hi Whitman
An obvious, for me, citation, is one in which I still respect the gender differences (though I'm not sure about popular use): the person to whom you are engaged to be married.
As I understand it, a man is you fiance, a woman is your fiancee (I can't do the accents, but assume them?)
Any of our more erudite members have a comment on this? Perhaps I've been getting it wrong all this while...
And yes, hello to everybody - sorry I've been away this while and not responding to e-mails etc - have been, as they used to say, rusticating (at least metaphorically).
cheer
the sunshine warrior
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#47192
12/01/2001 12:45 AM
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Dear shanks: it is very good to see a post by you again.
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#47193
12/01/2001 2:01 AM
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#47194
12/01/2001 2:52 AM
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do a Sol Campbell
Que-es-ce que ce, s'il te plaît?
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#47195
12/01/2001 10:51 AM
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How do you pronounce this one: contro-VER-see-al or contro-VER-shul? I'm with the first, but I nearly always, if not always, hear the second.
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#47196
12/01/2001 6:16 PM
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Welcome home, shanks.
And even US'ns manage to keep fiancé and fiancée straight. Most of the time.
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#47197
12/01/2001 10:53 PM
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In reply to:
How do you pronounce this one: contro-VER-see-al or contro-VER-shul? I'm with the first, but I nearly always, if not always, hear the second.
Definitely your second option. But what about the noun form?
CON-tre-ver-see or con-TRO-ver-see?
Bingley
Bingley
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#47198
12/02/2001 12:43 PM
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con-TRO-ver-see?
Never heard of such an animal.
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Sweet shanks, you had better write to me, or I'll give you another dose-I-mean-dish of raspberries...[not an idle threat e]
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#47199
12/02/2001 9:36 PM
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Jackie
I've writ, I've writ. Promise.
BTW - con-TRO-vuh-see is much favoured by the new breed of TV presenters in the UK - you hardly ever hear CON-tro-ver-see (secondary accent on the 'ver') any more. It is my preferred choice, though, having been brought up on it as I was.
cheer
the sunshine warrior
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#47200
12/02/2001 9:43 PM
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Interesting, shanks...I've always heard and used fiancé for both. Maybe I've been hearing it wrong...?
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#47201
12/03/2001 2:32 AM
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fiancé = the man
fiancée = the woman
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#47202
12/03/2001 4:00 AM
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fiancé = the man fiancée = thee woman 
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#47203
12/03/2001 12:17 PM
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I am indeed.
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12/04/2001 3:05 AM
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