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It always amuses me in retrospect about all the ruffles put up about certain songs in the mid-Sixties due to sexual imagery, or supposed sexual innuendo. I'm a Kinks freak from way back, and love all their work...and Lola was, as said, one of those judged lyrically startling for its time. Among others the list would include are The Kingsmen's Louie Louie (so garbled I still don't think anybody knows what they were really saying), The Standell's Dirty Water, and Mitch Ryder & the Detroit Wheels' Sock It To Me Baby!. You could actually go all the way back to Little Richard...just what was it that Miss Molly sure liked to do? But then, after all this "controversy," just a few short years later in '72, Lou Reed charts a Top Twenty hit with Walk on the Wild Side! How quickly times changed! By the way, here's a great music site where you can look up the background and history to every artist and every song ever recorded in every genre! http://AllMusic.com And there's a link there to a sister site for all classical music.
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Thanks for the link, Sweet WO'N. It's handy indeed. And oh my, speaking of changing times--have you listened to current pop music lately?? Yow.
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on blue berry hill.. there was an effort to have this song censored in NY back in the 50's... and another commercial site with a music database (all song, all artist, all titles,) and down-loadable rippers and burners for them that have read/write cd's is http://www.gracenote.com
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Girls will be boys and boys will be girls
It's a mixed up muddled up shook up world except for Lola
In the Kinks' recording, the word at "muddled" is indistinct, but it is clearly a word of one syllable, not two. Draw your own conclusions of what it may be.
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I think it was in Reader's Digest that I read J. Edgar Hoover at times cross-dressed. But nobody ever dared to make a song about it.
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See-oh-el-aye cola
[rant]What kind of cr*p is that? Why not just write "C-O-L-A cola"? [/rant]
As to the ending of the story, everybody knows that what Lola wants, Lola gets...
The Kinks were such a great band. The story goes that, to produce the desired dstortion in their guitars on "All Day and All of the Night" they stuck needles into the speakers in their amplifiers. I've always loved their song "Better Things" too. Well, not always, but ever since I heard it...
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The Kinks were such a great band. The story goes that, to produce the desired dstortion in their guitars on "All Day and All of the Night" they stuck needles into the speakers in their amplifiers. I've always loved their song "Better Things" too. Well, not always, but ever since I heard it...They must've been new speakers. When I first saw them (let me count the years ... not) they didn't need to "produce" the desired distortion, their speakers were so knackered that they were rattling in their boxes. I was playing in bands at that time (and for years afterwards), and I solved the problem of producing humbucking-type distortion by having my brother-in-law, who was an electronic technician, alter the amp circuitry so that I could get "11 out of 10" (hi there, tsuwm and Nigel!). He basically replaced the standard Holden pre-amp circuitry with Marshall pre-amp circuitry. You overdrive the pre-amp and a nicely, unevenly distorted sound is presented to the power amp to fire at the speakers. I don't believe that the Kinks didn't know about this if I did! Producing electronic sustain was a completely different problem. Sheer volume is the only real answer to this in terms of the big boys ('ello, Led Zep, Deep Purple and Jimi), but the rest of us used various kinds of electronic gimcrackery to get what we wanted or near as dammit, at lower volumes. The pickups on my Gibson SG were specially overwound (as were Pete Townshend's), and I put the output from my Strat through a box which attenuated the sound to some extent before it hit the amp. And despite what Keiva has said above (I think it was him), the Kinks didn't substitute anything for "muddled" in their live performances of Lola, or at least not the two I saw. Unlike the Stones' "Star Star", where they did substitute words on stage - "fuckin'" for "proper" - Jagger belting it out with gusto and with unsubtle pelvic thrusts for every substitution. 
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See-oh-el-aye cola
[rant]What kind of cr*p is that? Why not just write "C-O-L-A cola"? [/rant]
Mercy, Honey, calm down--it was just a phonetic spelling intended to illustrate the way it sounds in the song, ok?
{Aside--hmm, possibly another victim of the rush-through-to-catch-up malady, which I expect to fall victim to any old time now.)
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See-oh-el-aye cola
When copying the text from the link I considered altering it to C-O-L-A but thought that the original poster's effort to get the sounds across was interesting and innovative. I've not seen it done this way before and, for the song under discussion, it doesn't matter. It'd be the way to go however if the letter Z was involved in the rhyme - "zee" or "zed" depending where you're from.
.... ecks, why and zee
Now I know my aye - bee - see
Won't you come and play with me
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FWIW, I'd pronounce see-oh-el-aye as coli. And as we're online, why not make it e-coli?
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