#46270
10/30/2001 10:27 AM
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#46271
10/30/2001 12:17 PM
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#46272
10/30/2001 3:01 PM
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Never mind, WW, deal floor had me stumped, too, until I asked a carpenter!
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#46273
10/30/2001 11:51 PM
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I've never seen the reference to deal floors before, but deal tables are very common in England. It has something to do with the way the boards are joined together to make the surface.
Deal tables in Las Vegas are something entirely different.
EDITED Later
Deal actually has to do with the size of the planks. I shoulsa looked it up before I opened my mouth.
TEd
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#46274
10/31/2001 1:29 PM
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Haven't heard of a deal floor, but a deal table was the central feature of kitchens (in the UK and Oz - as I recall). It was scrubbed every day to keep it smooth and clean.
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#46275
10/31/2001 2:39 PM
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For those of y'all who were less than edified by wow's and TEd's helpful comments (I asked a carpenter and the size of the planks, respectively) ILedIU.
The planks are (per M-W on line) sawed yellow-pine lumber nine inches (22.5 centimeters) or wider and three, four, or five inches (7.6 to 12.4 centimeters) thick.
So there!
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#46276
10/31/2001 2:45 PM
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NOUN:
1a. A fir or pine board cut to standard dimensions. b. Such boards or planks
considered as a group. 2. Fir or pine wood.
ETYMOLOGY:
Middle English dele, from Middle DutchMiddle Low German dele, plank.
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#46277
10/31/2001 2:55 PM
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Well, stap me vitals!! You learn something new every day on this board. I had always thought that £deal" referred only to the type of timber (yellow-pine, or similar) - I had not realised that it referred also to the form in which it came.
Many thanks to you all.
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#46278
10/31/2001 2:55 PM
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Pooh-Bah
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Well, stap me vitals!! You learn something new every day on this board. I had always thought that deal" referred only to the type of timber (yellow-pine, or similar) - I had not realised that it referred also to the form in which it came.
Many thanks to you all.
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#46279
10/31/2001 9:06 PM
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Faldage:
Sorry, I could not remember the dimensions of the deal planks. I'd like to point out a couple of things. NO deal table is made of planks this size; a three ich thick table (even of pine) would be prohibitively heavy, not to mention probably a tad on the dear side. I suspect that deal refers to the type and the width of the planks, but not the thickness. Though the table may have started out as deal planks, almost certainly the carpenter or cabinet-maker would have resawn the planks to perhaps an inch in thickness. Though I don't work too much in pine, I do a bit of woodworking and have been quite successful with 3/4 inch as the standard guage for almost all of the furniture I build.
I think the original reference in this thread to deal floors was to a floor that was very heavy and capable of bearing huge amounts of weight, as in a warehouse, perhaps. Adequately supported, a three-inch think pine floor would be able to hold military tanks without even groaning.
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#46280
10/31/2001 9:12 PM
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RhubarbCommando o pines Well, stap me vitals!!Certainly sir; step right this way. The change may have come about as part of Roosevelt's "New Deal". This probably included new deal tables and floors ... 
The idiot also known as Capfka ...
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#46281
11/01/2001 3:34 AM
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In reply to:
For those of y'all who were less than edified by wow's and TEd's helpful comments
Is this a difference between USn usage and that of the rest of us? I scrolled back thinking I'd missed some ribald or salacious remarks.
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#46282
11/01/2001 1:43 PM
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For those of y'all who were less than edified by wow's and TEd's helpful comments
Is this a difference between USn usage and that of the rest of us? I scrolled back thinking I'd missed some ribald or salacious remarks.
What sort of unco' perversion could lead any reasonable, thinking native English speaker to expect a ribald comment from what I wrote?
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#46283
11/02/2001 4:19 AM
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I was always under the impression that edifying meant morally or spiritually uplifting. So anything by which were less than edified would have the opposite effect.
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#46284
11/02/2001 1:41 PM
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to instruct and improve especially in moral and religious knowledge (emphasis mine)
I was unaware of that qualification, mainly, I think, because I have rarely, if ever, heard it used that way. Ya learns something new ever day.
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