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mmm, thanks for the reminder that not *all the world is looking forward to a season of mess and smelly foolishness, Max! I like your selected poem.

Dian as a contraction of Diana, the huntress

Yes, that was my take - as in the myth about her being seen bathing... so a kind of extended metaphor for his remark about "chaste", which I think is also punning on 'chased' and perhaps 'chasseur', hence his words "without joking..."!


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Is it the use of vowels that gives the first stanza its fullness?
It makes your tongue move around like it would while eating the fruit.


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Here's one for the English and the Anglophiles, magnificently set to music, and featured in a good film.

And did those feet in ancient time
Walk upon England's mountains green?
And was the holy Lamb of God
On England's pleasant pastures seen?

And did the Countenance Divine
Shine forth upon our clouded hills?
And was Jerusalem builded here
Among those dark Satanic Mills?

Bring me my bow of burning gold!
Bring me my arrows of desire!
Bring me my spear! O clouds, unfold!
Bring me my chariot of fire!

I will not cease from mental fight,
Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand
Till we have built Jerusalem
In England's green and pleasant land.

--William Blake


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tongue move around like it would while eating the fruit

mm, I think you may have got something with that idea - the combination of complex mouth movements created by a wide range of consonants and open vowels does seem to suggest a full-mouthed chewing. When you try reading it aloud, there are some really tongue-tangling combinations (mists and mellow fruitfulness) that seem to be quite deliberate slowing effects, building a calm rhythm that suggests the sense of fruition and completion.


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Autumn always makes me a bit melancholy ~ something about the smell in the air and the fading of summer's warmth.

Accordingly, a suitably depressing poem, to share the wealth.

The Definition of Love
by Andrew Marvell


My love is of a birth as rare
As 'tis for object strange and high:
It was begotten by Despair
Upon Impossibility.

Magnanimous Despair alone
Could show me so divine a thing,
Where feeble Hope could ne'er have flown
But vainly flapped its tinsel wing.

And yet I quickly might arrive
Where my extended soul is fixed,
But Fate does iron wedges drive,
And always crowds itself betwixt.

For Fate with jealous eye does see
Two perfect loves; nor lets them close:
Their union would her ruin be,
And her tyrannic pow'r depose.

And therefore her decrees of steel
Us and the distant poles have placed
(Though Love's whole world on us doth wheel)
Not by themselves to be embraced.

Unless the giddy heaven fall,
And earth some new convulsion tear;
And, us to join, the world should all
Be cramped into a planishpere.

As lines so loves oblique may well
Themselves in every angle greet:
But ours so truly parallel,
Though infinite can never meet.

Therefore the love which us doth bind,
But Fate so enviously debars,
Is the conjunction of the mind,
And opposition of the stars.





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Quiet Emotions
by Judy Burnette

I always wanted more from you
than you were willing to give;
So now we've gone our separate ways
each with different lives to live.

The bond will always be there
the friendship always intact;
But the time for us has come and gone
and the pages of time, you can't turn back.

I will always be a friend to you
and wonder how you are;
The smiles and laughter I will remember
and our fights have become painless scars.

Sometimes on those busy days
when you've a thousand things to do;
Please let me glide slowly through your mind
and spend some time with you.

In that quiet moment
when you're surprised to find me there;
Just remember even with the distance between us
I am still someone who cares.





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