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#43540
10/09/2001 4:22 AM
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Dosh does indeed mean cash. In the back of my mind it's vaguely linked to the subcontinent, but my dictionary says origin unknown.
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#43541
10/09/2001 3:55 PM
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a sump is a pit, or low point.  a sump pump is a pump that is designed to sit at the bottom of a pit and pump it out. 
 I never change the oil in my car, put i do know it collects in what is commonly called the oil pan which sits under the engine.  the oil drains off, and sits there. when you turn the engine on, a pump (the oil pump) pumps its about.  but the oil pump isn't on dead bottom.  (like a sump pump would be) so all the bits of metal, and other gunk collect there. while i wouldn't call it a sump, or the oil sump oil, i can see how it could be called that.
 aside from household sump pumps, the next way i would think of a sump is related to mining, where a wet mine will have a sump for the water to drain into, and be pumped out of.
 
 i lived in a house that was in a low lying area-- and we had a sump pump in the basement.  french drains lined the wall of the basement, collecting the water, and directing it to the sump.  the sump was made out of an old 50 gallon metal pail.  the pump had a floatation device, like the stop cock in a flush toilet, only in this case, as the thing floated up, it turn on the sump pump motor.  i would expect sumps in mine to be very similar, but larger.
 
 
 the pump had a filter that need to be cleaned on a regular basis.  somehow, i could never figure out how to do it.  it was just too hard for me to figure out how to reach down into dank, stale ground water, grab onto a slimey filter, and clean off all the slime.  i managed to never learn how to do it.  i was just not smart enoung!
 
 
 
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#43542
10/09/2001 4:08 PM
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I reckon you were just about exactly as smart as you needed to be, Helen!
 re dosh, I had a feeling it was a Lunnen saying, Bingley - but a lot of that stuff got exported to those southern islands down there... and I am far from sure of my facts on this.
 
 Going back to the original post:
 
 Is a word addict an addictionary?
 
 
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#43543
10/09/2001 7:22 PM
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#43544
10/09/2001 10:53 PM
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Great Napier's Bones!  The adders are multiplying!(muttering under my breath ... there must be a logarithmic table around here somewhere)
 
 
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#43545
10/10/2001 2:16 AM
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but wiserNo, no, no, Keiva--that's tsuwm's thread!    But, meet me in the law library, and we'll see if we can find one of those tables...    |  |  |  
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#43546
10/10/2001 12:51 PM
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maverick:Registered on Fri Sep 15 12:18:59 2000   sorry, Granny, but we don't all have memories that predate existence   now, apart from all the welcome wagon stuff, don't you owe us a few word posts, Miz J?   |  |  |  
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#43547
10/10/2001 1:44 PM
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What about the good old blue collar term "Smokoh" (pron smoe-koe) - caters for tea or coffee, whatever your preference.  Accompanied by a cigarette of course when the phrase was coined .  We have morning smokoh AND afternoon smokoh - and you don't "stop" for smokoh - you "knock off" for smokoh.  Wonder why?
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#43548
10/10/2001 3:25 PM
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'Cause you non-USns just say things funny!  and [raspberry-e] |  |  |  
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10/10/2001 3:56 PM
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of course, raspberry (in that usage) is a UK creation. Send that raspberry on back to them, 'suela! (he said tartly) 
 
 
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10/10/2001 4:36 PM
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"Meet me in the law library," says Jackie.
 And dear lady, what brings you there?  Is your research recherche*, or of more general interest?
 
 And cross-threading to research of general interest:  I have just learned that the french word similar to "promiscuity" means simply overcrowded; too much close proximity; no privacy.  It has no sexual content, and so ladies can be promiscuous without being embarrassed.
 
 Or as spanish speakers would say (right, 'suela?), without being embarrassado.
 
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 oddly, recherche is todays word of the day on www.dictionary.com
 
 
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#43551
10/10/2001 4:40 PM
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Ok, I finally had it hammered into my skull:  John (Jhone) Napier invented logarithims, in between other interests, apparently.http://www-groups.dcs.st-andrews.ac.uk/~history/Mathematicians/Napier.html Ignorance, thy name is Jackie. Okay, Aunt mav--what sort of word posts would you like? |  |  |  
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10/10/2001 4:45 PM
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Is your research rechercheAccording to this def., it is:  2. Exquisite; choice.
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#43553
10/10/2001 4:50 PM
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and logarithms convert a mulipication problem into an addition problem.  Thus with logs, an adder can multiply.
 "Napier's bones" were sticks on which numbers were written such positions such that the sticks, manipulated properly, would solve multiplication problems.  (think "slide rule")
 
 
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10/10/2001 5:01 PM
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Thus with logs, an adder can multiplyNot according to the biology I  learned...   |  |  |  
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10/10/2001 5:12 PM
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Re:Napier's bones" were sticks on which numbers were written such positions such that the sticks, manipulated properly, would solve multiplication problems. (think "slide rule")
 
 the example i saw of Napiers Bones (first made on a irory--giving rise to the name of bones) looked more like an old fashioned adding machine.  you had to position a crank, (say to the 10's column)and then crank it 8 times to multiply by 80.  Oops.. first you had to enter a number say 743,in the starting postion, or regiser, to be multilpied by 87.. then you postioned the crank and rotated it 8 times, repostitioned it (to the ones' column) and cranked it 4 more times.  Voila the number in the register was not 743-- your starting number but 62412.
 
 i still remember when stores had mechical adding machines that need to be cranked X number of times to add or multily a number.
 
 and while napiers bones did lead to the slide rule, there is no physical resemblance.
 
 
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#43556
10/11/2001 6:13 PM
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>Thus with logs, an adder can multiplyNot according to the biology I learned..
 
 That's right.  They used the logarithm method.
 
 
 
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10/12/2001 1:34 AM
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They used the logarithm method.Hmm---that could give rise to a whole new meaning for the term "snake oil"...  |  |  |  
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