#43483
10/02/2001 12:16 AM
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Pooh-Bah
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With 16 unmoving views before this and no where to go, I succumb
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#43484
10/02/2001 12:34 AM
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Dear IP: Sorry that you felt compelled to move. I would never wish to apply zugzwang to you. Bill
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#43485
10/02/2001 12:44 AM
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zwang
siehe auch gewalt, autorität, macht, herrschaft, unterdrückung, mehrheit, konformismus, manipulation, logik, objektivität, recht,
moral, dogmatismus, ethik, pflicht, anarchismus
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#43486
10/02/2001 12:49 AM
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So, what you're saying is. son los mismos?they are the same thing?
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#43487
10/02/2001 12:56 AM
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See ZUG for a bit of fun. http://www.zug.com/
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#43488
10/02/2001 1:01 AM
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"Son los mismos nombres, quiero a los mismos hombres"
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#43489
10/02/2001 8:19 AM
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Pooh-Bah
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<<siehe auch...
Verstehe ueberhaupt nicht was Sie damit vorlegen wollen, Wilhelm. Man merkt aber wie die erste vier ausgezeigte Woerter <<die laune>> Ihren Satzes spiegeln.
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#43490
10/02/2001 12:33 PM
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No, not to Animal Safari; I'll leave that to my ASp to suggest. In Go ( http://www.well.com/user/mmcadams/gointro.html) you can pass if you don't feel you have an advantageous move.
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#43491
10/03/2001 3:07 AM
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Date: Mon Jan 5 00:03:44 EST 1998
Subject: A.Word.A.Day--zugzwang
Anu repeats himself (himself) after only three years!
(checkmate, stalemate, gambit, counterplay, endgame, patzer(!))
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#43492
10/03/2001 11:27 AM
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maybe a gambit to check on who is listening properly!
BTW, does that etymology perhaps also produce patsy, as in 'the fall-guy'? Although AHD says otherwise, they seem far from sure of their preferred origin:
pat·sy (păt'sē)
n. Slang., pl. -sies.
A person easily taken advantage of, cheated, blamed, or ridiculed.
[Perhaps from Italian pazzo, fool, from Old Italian paccio.]
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The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
Does the OED2 have anything to add?
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#43493
10/03/2001 2:23 PM
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W3 has patzer from G. patzer, a blunderer; and patsy from It. pazzo, a fool. coincidence?
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#43494
10/03/2001 3:18 PM
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There are a great many URLs about "patzer". Here is one of them, which even gives sources of tutoring for chess beginners: ] http://home.planet.nl/~jimvandorp/chess/home.htm
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