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#42422 09/22/2001 4:27 PM
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Ok, here's the skinny on this subject:
If it costs under $20 thousand to build it's "The Camp."
If the cost exceeds $20 thousand -- originally or with upgrades -- it is (becomes) "The Lodge!"


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1. U.S. slang. A bachelor; old bach, a confirmed bachelor. Also phr. to keep bach for earlier to keep bachelor's hall (cf. hall n. 11) = bach v.

2. N.Z. Also batch. a. A makeshift hut, usu. one in which a man living alone fends for himself. b. Now esp. a small house at the seaside or at a holiday resort.


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So, is there a name for the place where a woman lives alone?
Just want to know what to call my new place.BTW-house-warming party this Friday.

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even more to the point, how about a word for a bachelor girl or woman, other than bachelorette, that could be so shortened.


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Don't think I've ever heard of it being referred to as somewhere where a man lives alone, but it makes sense as an origin.

Thanks tsuwm!



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it simply means "well built".
I've never seen a brick [out]house, and I don't see anything that would suggest that they would necessarily be well built.

Perhaps the simile is more easily comprehensible if "well built" is rephrased as "built substantially beyond the norm".



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re: how about a word for a bachelor girl or woman

didn't that used to be spinster? and isn't now career woman? do we have any better choices?


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>"built substantially beyond the norm".

the 3rd little pig had a "well built" house.


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2. N.Z. Also batch. a. A makeshift hut, usu. one in which a man living alone fends for himself. b. Now esp. a small house at the seaside or at a holiday resort.
Say, Max--as our only current NZ resident currently posting,
can you please tell us: if a man lives alone in a hut,
is he still wrong?
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consuelo, happy housewarming, my dear!
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Pooh-Bah CK--congratulations, on both your new title and your newly-added wife...now you can be wrong twice as often!



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jackie ambiguates congratulations, on both your new title and your newly-added wife...now you can be wrong twice as often!

I'm sure I'm reading this wrong, but this oddly worded phrase certainly suggests an even number of wives -- I trust no *more than two(2).


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didn't that used to be spinster? and isn't now career woman? do we have any better choices?

Well, I know the word spinster fell out of use some time in the '70s. Career woman is *never used here. You can say a woman has a careet in sales or some other job but she is never refered to as a career woman.

A woman that is not married is 'single' (célibataire in French)

We don't have a word for the residence of a woman living alone like men do with bachelor appartment.

The term 'bachelor' in French refers to an appartment (flat) that has a bathroom, a bedroom, a kitchen and a living room. We call that a "three and a half".


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Oldies, but goodies: Does a chicken have lips? Does it snow in Siberia in the winter? Does a tree falling in the woods make a sound?


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My vote for what to call a single woman-GODDESS
I guess I know now what to call my new place. It's a 3 1/2.


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It seems live ages ago that of troy said, "a bust? is that the wrong part of the anatomy? isn't this thread about an out house?"

Helen, there's a phylogenic connection between bust and butt. Note that the human species is unique in these two respects:
1) walks in an upright position (even for the other species of apes, this is not their primary posture), and
2) has, between the male and female of the species, significant differencein the appearance of the (ahem) mammalia.

Those two uniquenesses are not unrelated, in evolutionary (phylogenic) terms.

Aside to tsuwm: am I correct in assuming that the linguistic similarity of the terms "bust" and "butt" is merely coincidental?



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am I correct in assuming that the linguistic similarity of the terms "bust" and "butt" is merely coincidental?

in a word, yes.


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"Crib" is a very common word in the Australian mining industry - courtesy of our Cornish forbears.....

Whist the Zilders' use of the word for a holiday house and the mining version no doubt have the same roots, I've often wondered whether the "crib (ie lunch) room" on a mine site (either underground or on the surface) derives from the old time miners' passion for cribbage, the card game?
The term is used in several contexts on a site. For instance, one's lunch is also referred to as one's crib - to be consumed at crib time.

By the by, I made a happy link to the past when I found a home made cribbage board at Kanowna, 19km NE of Kalgoorlie in 1987. It had been carved from the side of a dynamite box sometime between 1902 and 1920 (worked this out by knowing when the mine whose dump I found it in had been operating).

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<<In conjunction with BelM's early reminder that outhouses are chattel, not real estate, Keiva's statement "built substantially beyond the norm" yields this possibility:

"built like a brick outhouse" suggests something not just built beyond the norm, but so much so as to be impractical or, even, ridiculous. In which case, many a dot.com might well be said to have been a brick and mortar business.


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<<In conjunction with BelM's early reminder that outhouses are chattel, not real estate, Keiva's statement "built substantially beyond the norm" yields this possibility:

"built like a brick outhouse" suggests something not just built beyond the norm, but so much so as to be impractical or, even, ridiculous. In which case, many a dot.com might well be said to have been a brick-and -mortar business.


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How did I know that bach meant a small holiday home if it's exclusively a Zild term? Did it lodge (whoops)somewhere in the back of my mind from reading The Bone People 15 or more years ago? Why do I keep thinking that there's something Gaelic about it? Some sort of temporary overnight shelter for hunters or something like that? How can I google this without running into page after page of baroque music fans?

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something Gaelic

Taking us neatly fool circle, Ty Bach is Welsh for... brick outhouse!

A term for an overnight house is ty un nos, which if you could get away with building overnight on common land you could establsih squatters' rights.


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Honeydipper
often known as the Lavender Lorry in the U.K.



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Taking us neatly fool circle, Ty Bach is Welsh for... brick outhouse!

I thought so...:

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Loved this Anna!

In Welsh 'Bach' means little - the colloquial expression for what the Ozzies call a dunny would be Ty Bach (literally, little house). I often imagine the confused discussion of Welsh musicologists when discussing Bach's family, given the local tendency to patronymics followed by diminutives





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Ahem. Women with large breasts are said to be "stacked." Bricks are stacked to make structures with them. Hence a curvaceous woman is built like a brick house, and she's mighty mighty, and letting it allllll hang out.


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cantilevered, perhaps?


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<<bricks are stacked to make structures...

bricks are stacked in storage, in building they are laid.


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bricks are stacked in storage, in building they are laid. [in rows or tiers]
The former verb stressing their vertical dimension; the latter stressing the horizontal.


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built like a brick outhouse

BTW, in this phrase I've never heard anyone say outhouse -- it's invariably sh*thouse.
The first post in this thread (by mav) makes me wonder if usage may differ elsewhere in this regard. Mav, any info?


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In reply to:

bricks are stacked in storage, in building they are laid.


heh heh heh. I'm not touching THAT one for fear of the gutter police.


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And well you shouldn't Alex...especially after that brief musical interlude in your previous post. I'd say you are just this side of falling in.


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My grandmother had a name for her outhouse that I have never heard anyone else use. Skanoobie(sic). Was it just that grandmama was a little silly(that would explain a lot)or has anyone else ever heard of this?


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>A woman that is not married is 'single' (célibataire in French)

So how would you describe a woman who is single but not, er, celibate?


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well-loved? popular?
One is love; two is adventure; three is promiscuity -- and four or more is research.


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I repeat-GoddessYou do know what a single woman that is involuntarily celibate is called?horney.


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<<single but not..

célibrataire


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You do know what a single woman that is involuntarily celibate is called?

She's called often, I would suppose?
(or merely off and on? )


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>So how would you describe a woman who is single but not, er, celibate?

My kinda girl



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><You do know what a single woman that is involuntarily celibate is called?

Drop dead homely???

Edited 9/27/01:

It's been brought to my attention that this was crude and insensitive. I will bring it to [bold]everyone's[/bold] attention that this is true. It was crude and insensitive and I apologize to one and all. I'll try to think before opening my big keyboard in the future.

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No, silly. She's just particular.


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