...Who has the belly for that? Bin Laden does. Anyone else?

Which is precisely why a surgical extraction of the specific person(s) is necessary... yet, unfortunately, that reality will be lost in the "emotional revenge".

There is *nothing wrong with an emotional response, just one that is *purely emotional...(JMO)...

... you're about to get {another} one. Let me state, however, I am 'beotching' about the "tone of the discussion, not the opinions of others in the following:

I was sickened by last night's PBS Chicago Tonight sponsored "discussion" of what a military campaign may be, not because of what answers were given to that question, but because of how shallow the arguments and their tone became... they had a slight hint of "if I talk louder, my facts have more meaning".

A political representative, a retired General, a Afghan-American writer, and a representative from the Muslim-American (trade?)community were present. They all seem to have different perspectives as are indicative of what they DO, and I have to applaud the coordinator Phil Ponce for his control of the direction of the discussion, with his usual skill. However, when an attempt was made by the Afghan-American writer to explain the mindset of the Afghan people whether they be Afghan government or religious representatives, in Afghan as rebels, part of the Taliban (is there a difference), or just a "commmon" Afghan/Muslim citizen, that the sense of honor they feel is deep, and trying to relate a sense of understanding of what would go on in their minds in deciding what, why, how, where...etc to "hand over" bin liner (Thanks Mav)... the response from the "political representative" sounded like... "yeh, but our honor is bigger than their honor".

What we truly need are more "real" people and less politicians talking about this through the mass media... Countless times we have seen these kinds of debilitating words *happen before...