#40700
09/03/2001 8:08 PM
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In re-reading one of my Mary Stewart books,
she has one of the characters explain
that they were able to get into a locked house
because the sneck on the window was broken.
This obviously was what I call a latch.
Googling turned up a couple of things, which
confirmed my suspicion that the word was a UK usage.
But--how did it come to be called sneck?
Because of the noise it makes, perhaps?
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ARTFL Project: Webster Dictionary, 1913
New!! Robert Parks and the ARTFL Project are
pleased to release our initial
implementation of the Wordsmyth
English Dictionary-Thesaurus.
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Searching for: "sneck"
Found 2 hit(s).
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Sneck (Page: 1362)
Sneck (?), v. t. [See Snatch.] To fasten by a hatch;
to latch, as a door. [Scot. & Prov. Eng.]
Sneck up, be silent; shut up; hold your peace.
<-- Obs or archaic? --> Shak.
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Sneck (Page: 1362)
Sneck, n. A door latch. [Scot. & Prov. Eng.]
Sneck band, a latchstring. Burns. --
Sneck drawer, a latch lifter; a bolt drawer;
hence, a sly person; a cozener; a cheat;
-- called also sneckdraw. --
Sneck drawing, lifting the latch.
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#40701
09/03/2001 9:54 PM
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I just got a private message that this thread is wide.
It looks fine to me. What about others? And if it is, can
someone please tell me what to do about it, 'cause I have no idea? Thanks.
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#40702
09/03/2001 10:06 PM
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#40703
09/03/2001 10:13 PM
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Not wide here. Tsuwm once said a URL longer than the usual width of page can make it go wide. What else does, I have no idea
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#40704
09/04/2001 12:43 AM
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Snecks are, almost always, s-shaped, so they looked like the very front part of a small serpent, hence snake's-neck, later shortened to sneck.
you know, you would think I get tired of making up these things!
TEd
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#40705
09/04/2001 12:55 AM
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Jackie, your first post is sure wide and like you , I need help to un-widen because it sure is a problem.
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#40706
09/04/2001 1:18 AM
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Wow and Wordcrazy, does it look narrow to you now?
I went to Edit, and the only thing I could think of doing
was to go line-by-line, and hit Enter at possible likely
places. I couldn't really tell where to do it, because of the difference in the way they looked on the two screens.
I have always had trouble with the line length in my posts, and I have no idea why. I generally type to the end of my window, unless I'm starting a new paragraph.
Oh, I just thought of something--shoot, I feel sure this has been posted before, and I can't remember the number.
Can anyone tell me how many columns wide the post boxes that we read are, and more importantly, would it help if I set my typing boxes to that same number?
Edit: augh! My typing looked NOTHING like this post!
It was nearly a perfect box, and NOW look at it!
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#40707
09/04/2001 1:35 AM
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the secret behind the wide screens is this: any continuous string of characters wider than your normal screen width will cause (some) browsers to adjust automatically. so, a long url, a long string of characters unseparated by spaces (we had one recently which was a list of something or other separated by commas only), and this time some people saw it because J. originally had a long string of dashes. most browsers will put a return at a dash in a long string, which is why putting a dash into a long url works to remove the problem. I think a long string of dashes might confuse some browsers.
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netscape doesn't seem to handle this at all well. if you want to see what happens, grab the right border of this screen with your mouse and drag it back and forth....
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#40708
09/04/2001 5:55 AM
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There is a beer called Sneck-Lifter, extremely strong and extremely delicious. The term being obscure, they had to explain it in their publicity material: but I can't remember exactly what it was, something like a sneck-lifter being one who staggered home drunk in the wee hours, lifting the sneck to get in?
This was on holiday at East Bergholt, Constable's home town, fairly remote from anywhere. After three pints the landlord asked whether I was driving. I said no. Bit late to ask after three prints of Sneck Lifter though. I managed to make it the B&B across the street... presumably.
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#40709
09/04/2001 8:55 AM
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addict
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augh! My typing looked NOTHING like this post!
It was nearly a perfect box, and NOW look at it!
Jackie, I suspect that you are entering new lines when you get close to the end of the text box. If so then don't enter a new line yourself but just keep typing. The text will automatically wrap for you when typing and wrap for everyone else when viewing at their own specific line width. For new paragraphs and spacing you should enter the new line as you have been doing.
Rod (and thanks for the welcome - I am not fully up and running yet but hope to be soon)
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#40710
09/04/2001 10:46 AM
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What's "wrap", please? Somewhere in something on my computer, I've seen an option to "wrap text", but have never figured out what it meant. I couldn't visualize anything for it to wrap around! Dearest Rod, now that you are finally back with us, I shall have all the patience in the world, until you are "up and running" again. I am so glad to see you! 
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#40711
09/04/2001 11:21 AM
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What's "wrap", please?
Jackie, that's when you compose your text using bad rhymes and slang words. Oh, sorry, that's rap.
Wrapping text is when the text editor cuts long lines automatically at the end of a text box (or some other pre-set limit) and continues them at the start of the next entry line, rather than continuing on the same line until the typist explicitly enters a new line. Sometimes, but most often not, a new-line character is added by the text editor. The abscence of a new-line character allows other display programs to use their own "wrap" limit. "Wrap" may not be a particularly good word to describe the facility - I suppose the text is wrapping around the end of the line.
Rod
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#40712
09/04/2001 11:31 AM
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Okay, I've seen that most of the time, the thing starts a new line all by itself. That's the "text editor"? I guess that's a program, not a person?  Seriously, though, now I have another question: what is a "real new-line"? I take it it is somehow different than just starting a new line.
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#40713
09/04/2001 12:21 PM
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what is a "real new-line"?
My imprecision. What I should have said (and have now edited) is: "new-line character". The text-editor program wraps (splits) long lines for display without inserting a new-line character into the text. A new editor or browser will then make its own decisions about where to split long lines.
Rod
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#40714
09/04/2001 1:21 PM
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computers use hidden, "control" characters all the time-- we all know that this word, red, has two sets of contolling information, one to make it red, one to make it bold.
if you cut and paste text here from AWAD, these hidden characters can get lost, but from some sites(and or browsers), cut and paste will import hidden control characters.
the same is true for mail, if you use the "mail all replies to my email", you might see both the words and hidden characters, (or you might see the text as it appears in AWAD) it depends on your mail program.
In text there are also "soft returns" and "hard returns"
to force a new line, like i did after the word hard returns, you hit enter.Enter forces a hard return.
but if you just keep typing, and typing without hitting enter, you are letting the computer add the soft returns for you, and depending on your 1) monitor size, 2) monitor resolution, 3) window size. The number of characters you see on any given line will be dependent on these factors. this paragraph may be 3 line of text on some monitors, and 5 or 6 lines on other monitors.. letting the computer "break" the text, at the end of string is called using a soft return. most browsers will try to break a line at a "a space" character.
problems arise when you have a long line of characters, with no spaces,(ie, a long URL) or when there are hidden characters in the text that you are unaware of. any easy way to find and delete these characters, is to cut or copy the complete text, and paste into Word (Word Perfect, etc) and use the Show/Hide (hidden characters) or Reveal Codes. (both are under the VIEW menu)
Word perfects "reveal codes" shows codes similar to the Mark up text, for bold, font color =red, and other control codes. Word's Show/hide is different, (and in some ways better, some ways worse) but both will display codes that control the text. Once you can see them, they are easy to delete.
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#40715
09/04/2001 1:39 PM
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To tsuwm: Deepest sympathies on your recent affliction... it's a painful disorder, and I can recommend a good massage therapist on Lake Street if you'd like some relief. Oh, and congratulations on your recent promotion. FB
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#40716
09/04/2001 3:51 PM
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Dear Fiberbabe: thanks for your sharp eyes having seen what I missed.
Dear tsuwm: it is entirely fitting and proper that you should have a title that sets you apart from the rest of the madding crowd. Strange choice of term though. Of course only rather bad keyboard habits should cause inflammation of the carpal tunnel. May you make many more posts without incurring repetetive motion injury. Bill
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#40717
09/04/2001 4:05 PM
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All right, that's it! I am through posting. I thought becoming an addict was bad enough, but I refuse to become a "Carpal Tunnel"!!! Good grief, I wouldn't even know whether to charge a toll! And would I only charge it for my pals who were riding with me? 
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#40718
09/04/2001 4:07 PM
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Congratulations tsuwm! Happy to send my share to keep you with us. Couldn't stand the toll if we didn't have your expertise. Didn't see the new title because to get the post on my screen I had to shift text so names of posters were hidden. Sorry for the belated "Huzzah!" Caught the promotion from other well-wishers' posts. Jackie... dear heart ... the posts on my computer are still wide. Ah, well. Need a challenge now and then. Didn't someone, somewhere, mention that if you composed elsewhere (?) and then pasted into the regular reply box that posts tend to go wide? I never understood how that could be done but it seemed sensible at the time and - if I recall- it fixed a series of wide posts! Oh, and that "measuring graph" was seven lines long here, and wide to boot.  Finally, to get back to the question : my Grandmother used to ask "Have you snicked the lock?" meaning had someone locked the window or door. Or perhaps I heard wrong. Haven't hear sneck/snick in donkey's years.
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#40719
09/04/2001 4:37 PM
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TEd
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#40720
09/04/2001 7:00 PM
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#40721
09/04/2001 7:21 PM
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well, i too have used both, and my current work site is WP. and while i hate to tout an MS product, show/hide shows the end of file code. if a document is damaged or corrupted, removing the end of file code will often allow you to recover the document.
yes, i know correl has an macro that pretty much does the same thing, and i have down-loaded it. but its is not as easy to use. and its not built in.. with Word, we used to instruct users over the phone-- to open a file, go to end, place cursor between last bit of text and last "¶" symbol, and then working backwards highlight all of the text, copy and paste into a new document.. and 99% of the problems where fixed.
when a WP document get corrupted, i end up cleaning it up.. not the user.
Show/hide has value.. Word is also much better with headers/footers, (but not with footnotes) and its easier to build templates in word..
but bill gates still sucks
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#40722
09/04/2001 7:44 PM
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