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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread "make love" #3926 07/05/2000 6:08 AM Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 167 Australia johnjohn member johnjohn member Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 167 Australia When did the phrase "make love" change to its current meaning from its 1920s-ish meaning of "kiss and hug"? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Share Post on Reddit Re: "make love" #3927 07/05/2000 12:05 PM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 460 Hobart, Tasmania, Australia paulb addict paulb addict Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 460 Hobart, Tasmania, Australia Hi johnjohn -- and welcome! You ain't by any chance a Stan Freberg fan are you? -- I'm reminded particularly of his John! John! Marsha! Marsha! sketch (and, for our younger listeners, this is definitely on thread!). Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Share Post on Reddit Re: "make love" #3928 07/05/2000 4:17 PM Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass tsuwm Carpal Tunnel tsuwm Carpal Tunnel Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass John and Marsha can, of course, be found online, in Real Audio... Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Share Post on Reddit Re: "make love" #3929 07/05/2000 5:43 PM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky Jackie Carpal Tunnel Jackie Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky johnjohn--I see you've posted three times, but as this is the first notice I've noticed,...welcome! I was born in '53, so I don't really know about the decades between the 20's and the 60's. But--during the Hippie movement in the U.S. in the late 60's, the phrase "make love not war" became a rallying cry, amidst the bra burning, protests, and "free love" activities. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Share Post on Reddit Re: "make love" #3930 07/05/2000 10:19 PM Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 167 Australia johnjohn member johnjohn member Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 167 Australia Thank you for all those welcomes. JohnJohn is just my screen name because otherwise I'd have to call myself "John9324656735" or something equally elegant. I think we've got it narrowed down to somewhere between the late '20s (Fitzgerald, Hemingway, et al) and the '60s hippy era. I suspect that it probably fell into (relative) disuse and was then revived in its new incarnation, a bit like "gay". Continuing on the love theme, does anyone know a phrase "amor fati"? I have no idea where I've come across it, but I have a distinct feeling of "presque vu" (as Yossarian would have it) when I see it written. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Share Post on Reddit Re: "make love" #3931 07/06/2000 1:14 PM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky Jackie Carpal Tunnel Jackie Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky Amor fati: what an experience I had finding this, said the internet neophyte. Clicking on Gurunet gave me a website for amor fati. This turned out to be a sales site for music. By clicking on various things around this site, some of which were VERY strange, I found a quote from Nietzsche that used this term. Beneath the quote, at long last, I found: "amor fati": a love of fate. Whew! Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Share Post on Reddit Moderated by  Jackie  Hop To General Topics ------  Information and announcements  Q&A about words  Wordplay and fun  Words and languages in schools  Miscellany  Weekly Themes  Looking for (writers, speakers,... (Old) Weekly themes. (have been... ------  Words from medicine  Beheading words  Meta-words  Words from classical mythology  Animal Safari  Words with unusual etymologies  Eponyms or words derived from p...  Loanwords from German  English as a global language Print Thread Switch to Threaded Mode Show Likes Link Copied to Clipboard View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Website Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary Forum Statistics Forums16 Topics13,915 Posts230,263 Members9,208 Most Online4,606 Sep 17th, 2025 Newest Members JerryC, blvd, Tony Hood, Wood Delivery, Forix Richard 9,208 Registered Users Top Posters(30 Days) wofahulicodoc 27 A C Bowden 7 JerryC 1 Wood Delivery 1 Trusted Roofing 1 John Fox 1 Tony Hood 1 Forix Richard 1 John Flex 1 handymanhome 1 Top Posters wwh 13,858 Faldage 13,803 Jackie 11,613 wofahulicodoc 11,123 tsuwm 10,542 LukeJavan8 9,974 Buffalo Shrdlu 7,210 AnnaStrophic 6,511 Wordwind 6,296 of troy 5,400

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