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09/04/2001 5:26 PM
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the painting you describe is the one i am picturing in my mind... (and not the one i got the url for) since "death of Marat" doesn't link to that image, i can only think it has some other name.. i hope some one can find it.. it interesting, how painting can haunt us, the visual image lives on.. and yet we forget the name.. how right Dali was with the idea of "the Persistence of Memory"... http://www.mcs.csuhayward.edu/~malek/Dali3.html
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#38776
09/04/2001 5:33 PM
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But the David picture is the famous one, without a doubt. It features on the cover of a leading history fo the French revolution, and as an illustration in many others. David's neo-classical polemic is quite interesting in its own right, too. Be interested when you find the one you are thinking of as well, Helen.
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#38777
09/04/2001 5:59 PM
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helen, could it be that what you're remembering was a bogus reproduction, or mayhap a photo with reversed orientation?
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09/04/2001 6:22 PM
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09/04/2001 6:49 PM
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No-- it has a dark, almost black background. the scene is illuminated from a candle on a small table at the foot of the bath, Marat is slumped in the tub, his arm hangs over the edge of the tub, and a book lies on the floor..
i recently saw something on PBS-- and they, copied the image for an introduction to a segment.. but i can't for the life of me remember what! So some one beside me has a vivid memory of the painting! it sound like Keiva has the same painting in mind, too, since i have been to the louvre, but never to brussels, and i am sure i have seen the painting up close and personal.
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#38780
09/04/2001 7:50 PM
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Are we all talking about the same painting, the one at http://www.bc.edu/bc_org/avp/cas/his/CoreArt/art/neocl_dav_marat.htmlIt is apparently at the Mus饳 Royaux des Beaux-Arts at Brussels. I've never been there; either it used to be at the Louvre, or I saw it on traveling exhibition.
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#38781
09/04/2001 9:19 PM
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Musées Royaux des Beaux-Arts at BrusselsAnd to get a little closer to words: http://www.tasc.ac.uk/depart/media/staff/ls/Modules/MED1110/Narrative/WHAuden.htm
W. H. Auden
Musee des Beaux Arts
About suffering they were never wrong,
The Old Masters; how well, they understood
Its human position; how it takes place
While someone else is eating or opening a window or just walking dully along;
How, when the aged are reverently, passionately waiting
For the miraculous birth, there always must be
Children who did not specially want it to happen, skating
On a pond at the edge of the wood:
They never forgot
That even the dreadful martyrdom must run its course
Anyhow in a corner, some untidy spot
Where the dogs go on with their doggy life and the torturer's horse
Scratches its innocent behind on a tree.
In Breughel's Icarus, for instance: how everything turns away
Quite leisurely from the disaster; the ploughman may
Have heard the splash, the forsaken cry,
But for him it was not an important failure; the sun shone
As it had to on the white legs disappearing into the green
Water; and the expensive delicate ship that must have seen
Something amazing, a boy falling out of the sky,
had somewhere to get to and sailed calmly on.
I'm not to fond of the poem, but I rather like the painting that he refers to. It's on the link.
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#38782
09/04/2001 9:51 PM
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>It is apparently at the Musées Royaux des Beaux-Arts at Brussels. I've never been there; either it used to be at the Louvre, or I saw it on traveling exhibition
this painting was at the Louvre for a David retrospective in 1989. were you guys both there that year?! :)
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#38783
09/04/2001 10:13 PM
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this painting was at the Louvre for a David retrospective in 1989. were you guys both there that year?
Not I; 1971.
wow, o'T, and mav: are we all talking about the same painting?
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09/04/2001 10:21 PM
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Between Kieva's and of troy's posts the screen went wide. I mention the posters *only because some folks have more posts displayed per page than others.
OK, that's the last time I'm mentioning wide posts Sorry for the "sneck" kerfluffle Jackie I'll just adjust by using the space bar and wonder who sent it or slide back and forth and enjoy the dizzy effect or .... oh pooh.
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#38785
09/05/2001 1:32 AM
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wow
Between Kieva's and of troy's posts the screen went wide. I mention the posters *only because some folks have more posts displayed per page than others.
OK, that's the last time I'm mentioning wide posts Sorry for the "sneck" kerfluffle Jackie I'll just adjust by using the space bar and wonder who sent it or slide back and forth and enjoy the dizzy effect or .... oh pooh.
It seems to be happening more and more of late.
Please explain the cause, and is there a remedy for this?
Will be grateful for any technical explanation.
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09/05/2001 4:13 AM
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>Please explain the cause, and is there a remedy for this?
Will be grateful for any technical explanation.
I don't know of any other way to say this, so I'll just say it again. it's caused by a long character string, with no spaces or dashes. jazzo put in a long url a few posts back, which made everything wide again. this particular one you can compensate for by making your AWAD window full screen.
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#38787
09/05/2001 6:01 AM
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Good grief, six pages in defense of The President? I thought that it was a joke, and that there would only be a blank page upon opening the thread!
So, you lawyers, is making someone look like poop called libel, slander, or defecation of character?
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09/05/2001 12:00 PM
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wow, o'T, and mav: are we all talking about the same painting?Yep, I am certainly referring to the David painting of Marat slumped in a bath, with quill in extended right hand and a list in his left... As for defense against the president... The Defense That Doesn't Work against The Threat That Doesn't Existhttp://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/05/opinion/05DOWD.html?todaysheadlines
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09/05/2001 12:47 PM
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in paris in 1989? alas no.. England, but not paris. i haven't been to paris since my honeymoon, but that was the same year Keiva went, since in my own inimatatible why, i got married one year, and had my honeymoon six months later in another year..
and definately the first time i saw the painting, i did not know who marat was... and still know almost nothing about him.. except french revolution, and being murdered in his bath..
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#38790
09/05/2001 10:01 PM
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jazzo put in a long url a few posts back, which made everything wide again.
My bad, I can get rid of it if you'd like.
I just noticed that I haven't had a problem with wide screens. The links are wrapping naturally for me. I wonder if it's a Mac thing, Anna?
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#38791
09/05/2001 10:37 PM
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of troy: in my own inimatatible why
Don't mean to give you a hard time on your typing, as I know your thoughts and ideas come fast and furious and you pour them onto the keys, occasionally hitting an extra one, or your intended key's neighbor, or distant cousin - but I loved the idea of your inimatatible why. I think we've all got 'em - it's why really understanding people and their motives is so tough.
From now on, when I just don't get where someone's coming from or why they've done something, I'll chalk it up to the ol' inimatatible why.
p.s. - I also love the David painting - very haunting
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