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#37249 10/13/01 01:50 AM
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You may or may not believe this, folks, but standard spellings are a twentieth century fixation ...



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Dear CK: but sometimes the a pie-eyed printer pied the type. I almost said typos were possible in 1848, but had to fall back and regroup.


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Well, believe or not, Mr Ripley, I was once a member in paid-up standing of the pie-eyed printing fraternity, and I can tell you categorically that the quality of proofreading in the 1800s was far and away above that of today.

You can get a job as a proofreader these days if you can walk and talk at the same time without your knuckles dragging on the ground. Once upon a time, you served your time as a copyholder and learned to read and write properly before you were allowed anywhere near the other side of the desk ...



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Once upon a time, you served your time as a copyholder and learned to read and write properly before you were allowed anywhere near the other side of the desk

When I got my first real job on a newspaper (1949) we had about 15 proofers. By the '60s the number had dwindled to half that.
I blame computers.
When they came in with spellcheck it knocked proof readers off the job. (Never mind that spellcheck will pass cellar when the writer should have written seller.)
By the late 1980s into early 1990s the paper I worked on had one proof reader and only the front page stories,the police report and the occasional list of Grand Jury indictments were proofread!
Standards crashing all around us!
Now, as for errors in *books ... Arrrrrrrrrrgh!


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Dear CK: it seems to have escaped your notice that the quotation that led me to start this thread did have a typo in it: "drearest" instead of "dearest". But I don't know who committed it.


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They need people to correct other things too. I was reading an article next to the comics, and they called a Greek god Vulcan instead of Hesphaestos, and said that Etruscans were Romans.


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From the OED...

The form intrust, though preferred in many recent Dicts., is now rare in actual use.
1. trans. To invest with a trust; to confide a task, an object of care to (a person, etc.); to commission or employ in a manner implying confidence. a. Const. to with inf., †for (a purpose), in (a business); also simply. Obs. or arch. exc. in Law.
a 1602 Carew Cornwall 82b, They+ were wont to be entrusted, for the Subsidiary Cohort, or band of supply. 1646 Sir T. Browne Pseud. Ep. iii. xi. 130 The Griffin+doth+well make out the properties of a Guardian, or any person entrusted. 1665 G. Havers P. della Valle's Trav. E. India 31 The last Advertisements+argue that the King still entrusts him. 1666 Pepys Diary (1879) IV. 108 The report we received from those entrusted in the fleete to inform us. 1691 in W. Perry Hist. Coll. Amer. Col. Ch. (1860) I. va. 4 The Archbishop of Canterbury+was wholly entrusted by the King and Court for all Ecclesiastical affairs. 1759 Robertson Hist. Scot. I. ii. 112 The clergy were entrusted because they alone were properly qualified for the trust. 1836 J. Grant Random Recoll. Ho. Lords xiii. 290 Earl Grey+entrusted his son-in-law in the execution of so important a task. 1885 Law Rep. Q. Bench Div. XIV. 202 The Attorney General only+was entrusted by the constitution to sue for the King.
b 1649 Milton Eikon. Wks. 1738 I. 387 The Governor besought humbly to be excus'd, till he could send notice to the Parlament who had intrusted him. a1674 Clarendon Hist. Reb. (1704) III. xii. 254 Sr Benjamin Wright; who was intrusted by them to sollicite at Madrid for their Pass.


From the dates of the quotes it would appear that this argument has been going on for some time.

There appear to be quite a few words with the in-/en- dual spelling. One thing that struck my fancy when looking up this word was the word, entuite. I was a given a roundtuit once at work, but I never thought that there would be an entuite.

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If you have a roundtuit, then there can be no entuite. I understand your perplexity.


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it seems to have escaped your notice that the quotation that led me to start this thread did have a typo in it: "drearest" instead of "dearest". But I don't know who committed it.

No it didn't escape my notice. I just don't believe that it was a typo. I prefer to think of it as an interesting usage from the period. And, as our Inker from Ithaca has pointed out, it's an acknowledged usage. Soooo - no typo.



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Dear CK: What was supposed to be two copies of the same text had the one word printed two ways. What in hell do you call that?


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