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#37202 08/01/01 05:20 AM
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I saw a news item today about someone renegotiating a "pre-nuptual" agreement after four years of marriage. Setting aside the almost universal mispronunciation of nuptial, is it possible to call it a "pre" when revised 4 years "post"?


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since Pre- nuptials are designed to protect the interest of people who are about to enter a contract-- i don't see any problem with changing them four years after the fact-- and still calling them prenuptials.

(but if it were me, after 4 years? I would wonder why are you making the terms of divorce harder? and who would agree to that? and if easier? why bother? if I have a contractual obligation to give you X, and then in a divorce settlement give you 2 or 3 times X-- are you going to take me to court and sue me because i have over paid you?)




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There's a subtle point here about naming things. I would have to say that an agreement of this nature, entered into before the nuptuals take place, is properly called a pre-nuptual agreement and is always called that. The fact of its having been created in advance of the nuptuals determines its nature (and its name) once and for all, and a subsequent renegotiation or alteration does not alter the fact that it came into existence before [pre-]nuptuals. There are plenty of examples of things which have a name put to them and after the passage of time and changes in circumstances the name no longer describes the thing accurately, but the name doesn't change. [OK Ayleurs, give us some examples!]

As to why one would want to fiddle around with such an arrangement, maybe one of the parties is now inclined to be more generous, or children have entered the picture and convinced one party to do something to benefit them, or maybe a small alteration would fend off a divorce, or, or, or.




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nuptual
Commonly misspelled entry for nuptial

A nuptual is customary observance before participation in the voluptual.


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Bobyoungbalt wrote that There are plenty of examples of things which have a name put to them and after the passage of time and changes in circumstances the name no longer describes the thing accurately, but the name doesn't change.

This doesn't exactly relate, but I've wondered whether Post Traumatic Syndrome is a misnomer because it's the trauma that continues. The counter-argument is, of course, that a person's behavior changes after (post) a traumatic experience, but I see it that the traumatic experience never really ends for those who witness or experience such horrible things.


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VC>the almost universal mispronunciation of nuptial

MWC gives four (4) common variants (although some might see only 2); I gather that you have disdain for the 3-sylLAble version(s)?

n&p-sh&l, -ch&l, ÷-sh&-w&l, ÷-ch&-w&l
[& = schwa]


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Dear WO'N: If somebody got hit on the head with a hammer, the damage to the tissues is the trauma. The years of headache thereafter could be called "post-traumatic cephalalgia".


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When you break a bone, the doctor in charge of you is called a traumatologist, right? I.e. the guy you go to when you have hit something or something has hit you really hard.

So I suppose "trauma" in medical parlance is the actual violent event that can originate post-traumatic syndrome.



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Traumatologist would suggests to me someone specially trained to handle skeletal injuries with complications, such as injured blood vessels, nerves, shock, or other organs.. For simple fractures an orthpedist would suffice.
Of course "nuptuals" ought not end that way. Maybe during the " ruptuals".


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