OK,we all know the line from Shakespeare "Romeo,Romeo,wherefore art thou Romeo?" but does anyone actually know what it means translated into modern-day English?Send me a private message with your answer.
Why not, AnnaS?..don't you believe in super-precocious 11 year olds? Remember Mozart! Welcome to the Board, Vixy, if you really are who you say you are! Or could this be another incarnation of the Great Mav-Arch, with a bio to go with it, yet?
It appears that nobody on the board so far is any better at understanding Shakespeare than vixy is.I haven't seen the text for sixty years. I wonder if she was expressing unhappiness that one was a Montague, and the other a Capulet.
Dear Vixy: Have I got a site for you. (yours was nice.) I found a place where Romeo and Juliet is analzyed and explained for students. Turns out I was right about what Juliet's speech meant. So, here is URL to the site where you can learn more if you wish, with some pertinent parts of the analysis.
In the fifth scene the lover's share a sonnet which uses imagery of saints and pilgrims. This relates to the fact that Romeo means Pilgrim in Italian. It is also a sacriligeous sonnet, for Juliet becomes a saint to be kissed and Romeo a holy traveler.
One of the remarkable aspects of the play is the transformation of both Romeo and Juliet after they fall in love. Juliet first comes across as a young, innocent girl who obeys her parents commands. However, by the last scene she is devious and highly focused. Thus, she asks her nurse about three separate men at the party, saving Romeo for last so as not to arouse suspicion. Romeo will undergo a similar transformation in the second act, resulting in Mercutio commenting that he has become sociable.
Romeo has meanwhile succeeded in hiding beneath Juliet's balcony. She appears on her balcony and, in this famous scene, asks, "Oh Romeo, Romeo, wherefore art thou Romeo?" (2.1.75). She wishes that Romeo's name did not make him her enemy. Romeo, hiding below her, surprises her by interupting and telling Juliet that he loves her.
Yes, Vicki, I am sure the other guys have parsed this correctly. She is saying (in literal translation to modern idiom) "Why, of all things, did you have to be Romeo..." [and therefore a Montague and my family enemy]...
This is, after all, the speech that goes on to examine "What's in a name? That which we call a rose/ By any other name would smell as sweet [.../...]Art thou not Romeo and a Montague?"
So she is trying to disentangle her attraction to this boy from the family antagonism and conflict his name represents.
But did you know all this anyway, and were just teasing us?
yeah,I did know.I was just seeing if anyone else knew.and you're all right,she was lamenting the fact that he was a Montague.hey,thanx about the site.....im a novice but anyways.I'll check out that site!!!!!and by the way,I dont know all that much about Shakespeare.I get most of it from my friend.she really knows Shakespeare.....im into Einstein more.No,really!!!!!
.....and as for AnnaStrophic.....I'd like to be friends,but if not.....?what can I do about it?im used to being rejected.being in a gifted class,me and m'mates are the village group of idiots.technically speaking.even with the teachers.....SO glad im out of that school now.....
Dear Vixy: AnnaStrophic was remembering some of the guys playing jokes. They played one on me, pretending to be a newcomer, and tricked me into protesting when they were rude to the supposed newcomer. So AnnaStrophic thought possibly it was another joke. I had fun looking up that Shakespeare site for students. Hope you found something interesting in it.So ask us some more questions.
waitasec:heres another word related one:do any of you(and I do,not to brag)know the meaning of the word: antidisestablishmentarianism ?????reply here or send a message,Vic
Hmmm...does this sound suspiciously like a Brit affectation in a self-proclaimed Canadian to anyone else? Now I'm a-wonderin' again...mates!
Dear Vixy, I sincerely hope you are a very gifted young lady who, as such, would be a treasure and an asset to have around here! So please don't take any of this jovial banter personally...a thousand welcomes! However, as Dr. Bill says, we have been suckered-in to phantom arrivals before, so that's why we joke about it! and if this is some gargantuan hoax, whoever came up with it has waaaaaaayyyyy too much time on their hands! "Mav-Arch, Mav-Arch, O wherefore art thou, Mav-Arch?"
Boardmembers, I have just toured "Vixy's" Beatles website and it seems to be a spoof or bogus site contrived through a company called CitySlide that specializes in "60 Second" Websites by offering a series of clicks for you to pick generic selections "teensite,"/"fansite", etc....and, presto! If you look through all the messages and guestbook, and ridiculous photo entries, they're all something out of a Mad Magazine parody! And there is one HUGE CLUE! A messageboard poster called "Alien" has a post up called FACES, and it is a pictorial spoof of.....EMOTICONS!!! WHO HATES EMOTICONS MORE THAN ANYBODY ELSE ON THIS BOARD,...... M...................A.....................V.....................E......................R.................I...................C.....................K?!!!!! I'm afraid he got'cha again, Dr. Bill! ........Mav-Arch, I rest my case!
>do any of you(and I do,not to brag)know the meaning of the word: antidisestablishmentarianism
not to turn this into a fatuous fanfaronade, or to act (as the kiwis might say) the skite, I even know the meaning of pseudoantidisestablishmentarianism (yart!!) , joe blustered boastfully.
p.s. - mav, you have only yourself to blame for the current reaction (unless, of course, this is what you wanted... in which case, shame on us 8)
how an 11-year old obtained a hotmail account, when one must be at least 13 years old to qualify.
I'm assuming that's pretty easy - she could lie! I looked at the websites too, and I can tell you, at least, that the I-AM-CANADIAN line is from a popular beer ad campaign which is going on in Canada these days. So at least that is authentic!
Let me look around and find the link for the I-AM-CANADIAN ad, it's pretty good.
the worthless word for the day is: agenbite of inwit
from "The Ayenbite of Inwyt" a 14th century treatise on the "again-biting" of the inner wit, the remorse of conscience; borrowed by Joyce and made a part of Leopold Blooms's character in _Ulysses_ (he used it "at least eight times", according to Words@Random).
A very deliberate, and well-chosen, image! Don't you see, folks? This is the climatic scene in the movie where Kirk Douglas (Spartacus) is just about to reveal himself to the Roman authorities for execution when another soldier stands up and proclaims, "I'm Spartacus!" Then another, "I'm Spartacus!", and another, starting a chain-reaction until hundreds of soldier-captives stand claiming, "I'm Spartacus"...thus saving the real Spartacus from execution! Every little move seems to be calculated here, folks, like a chess match...it's amazing! He could just as easily have said, "I'm the Man-in-the-Moon" or "...the Mad Hatter," but that doesn't fit, don't you see? And I haven't looked, but I'll bet the Beatles site has undergone some recent rapid changes in light of recently aired "clues"...O such subterfuge for gamesmanship!
By the way, I, for one, am NOT Spartacus!...to the gallows with the fugitive, I say!
Another nauseating example of the movies re-writing history in an absurd way. The encyclopedia makes it clear that the Romans killed and crucified every goddam one of the escaped slaves.
If practice makes perfect, Crassus' army should have become quite proficient by the time they finished crucifying the remnants of the rebel army. And Spartacus had been killed in battle.
This is how I recall it : (The movie that is... I'm old but not that old!) : All the slaves, including the real Sparticus, were hung on crosses ... the "I am Sparticus" thing was so the Romans would never be sure whether or not they had actually gotten Sparticus!
Then there is the old joke about the Roman Procurator leading a column of Romans - all driving chariot - along a road lined with men hanging from crosses. The Procurator stops and calls to one ofthe soldiers and tells him, "That man hanging on the cross over there is singing. Go find out what he is singing." A few minutes later the soldier came back. Procurator : "well?" Soldier: "I Love A Parade." Last line of the joke should be sung, of course!
Not as far as I know, Rhu - but dad always teased my mum that she came from a tribe of itinerant gypsies, so who knows where a forebear may have clogged his pops
I only ask because the usage, "m'mates" is a peculiarly Barrovian one (also, "m'dad; m'mam;" etc).
So, knowing you to be an honest man, I believe that you are not the real Vixy, and the real Vixy is probably Vixy - ain't that so, Vixy? I don't see why there is all this disbelief.
The Wizard of WO'N says you don't have a chance with the Paranormal Police because I am not associated with the term normal in any way, shape, or form! You'll have to call out the heavy hitters, the Paraweird Police at the very least, if you want to try to monitor the Magic of WO'N!
Never had anything to lose, mav...so it's a moot point! But, have I lost my powers to expose alias scams? Not likely! It's just that my Wand of Wizardry has moved on to bigger and better things! thanks for the wizard imagery, Jackie dear!
All my life I've been rejected and now when I try and follow my interests no one will believe me.I'm obviously just not worthy of anyone on this world.Maybe I'll try Mars.Maybe they'll be more sensitive there.Seeya-or not.
WHAT the blue blazes is going on here? I turn my back for two months, and you've all turned into Dominican friars and the Spanish Inquisition has been set up and is in full swing. Where's the auto-da-fe going to be held, and do I get an invite?
hey, you didn't say anything about no steenkin raspberries before! - I thought the only gravaminous matter was about having enough bedrooms, or something [innocence]
why worry about how many bedrooms? privacy is a mental state as much as a physical one. and since i don't think the wordapalooza is likely to turn into an orgy-- (i could be wrong)-- all we need is one sleeping room-- just as making everything forbidden tend to make everything possible, making everything possible, tend to make everything forbidden..
think of all the fun we can have with innuendo if everyone sleeps in the same room.. the possibilities would be infinitely more fun the actualities! each could claim to have sleep with whom ever we take a fancy to-- with no possibility of rejections or hurt feelings. almost a utopia!
why worry about how many bedrooms? privacy is a mental state as much as a physical one. and since i don't think the wordapalooza is likely to turn into an orgy-- (i could be wrong)-- all we need is one sleeping room-- just as making everything forbidden tend to make everything possible, making everything possible, tend to make everything forbidden..
think of all the fun we can have with innuendo if everyone sleeps in the same room.. the possibilities would be infinitely more fun the actualities! each could claim to have sleep with whom ever we take a fancy to-- with no possibility of rejections or hurt feelings. almost a utopia!
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Welcome to the Board, Vixy, if you really are who you say you are! Or could this be another incarnation of the Great Mav-Arch, with a bio to go with it, yet?
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