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Funny this topic should come up today, since last night I saw 'bamboozled' written by Spike Lee. It's about a modern day version of a minstrel show set on a watermelon patch as a parody of the stereotypes created by ol' theatrical shows and early television programmes. Lo and/or behold, the name of the sidekick in this programme was Night 'n Day. So yes, coupled with the information above, there seems to be a definite, if abstract link to the disparaging ways in which blacks were light-heartedly dubbed.
It was a really sad film actually. The last 10-15 mins was outakes of various progammes (right up to modern television) where black americans where always the butt of the jokes, or just saying 'Yes sir' or 'No sir'.
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Hey, Aunt mav--
Sylvia's mother said to tell you thanks for sharing that story. It described a cultural interaction that is quite literally foreign to me, and I found it fascinating.
Your loving niece
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Like mav, I also associate the term "sunshine" with London slang, albeit a matey form of address that was quite unknown in West London, where I was raised (the matey form of address, to someone whose name was unknown to you, in those parts, was "John.")
But at no time did I ever hear it used as a form of racial abuse - or any other sort of abuse, actually. It always came across as matey; or at least, neutral.
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Turn off the sun - we don't want no "shine" in here.
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From the musical Chess, the singer rebuffs a prostitute's advances:
I get my kicks above the waistline, Sunshine.
Might well have been just for the sake of the rhyme, but this discussion put me in a mind of its sassy tone.
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There's a musical called Chess? Who played in it? 
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You don't wanna know, Marianna! It is set in a pawn shop, and the characters are all upper class in reduced circumstances; Bishops, Kings, Knights - all that sort of thing. Strictly a musical for squares. There - that,s putting it in black and white for you!
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"Strictly a musical for squares. There - that's putting it in black and white for you!"
I deplore the concept of "square" having been made subject of derision. I try to be square, and despise the "street wise" anal orifices who have debased the term. Present company not included, of course.
And I always liked a chessboard with red and black squares.I used to have a lot of fun playing chess on the computer, but had to give it up because I kept making the same dumb moves. My smarts aren't what they used to be.
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I used to have a lot of fun playing chess on the computer, but had to give it up because I kept making the same dumb moves.
I don't like the computer chess games because they beat me even faster than Scott does, and I'm able to win against Scott every hundred games or so. I like reading about how they made these games though.
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