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#36541 07/26/01 10:20 PM
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Who is Nicolas Cage? Is he in any movies I would actually think about allowing the thought of considering the chance that I would want to see it cross my mind?


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Faldage, Dr Bill and Flatlander,

Thank you very much for the info. I appreciate it.


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Moonstruck, costarring Cher -- and don't see it because of him.


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other treatment of the code talkers

For this, AnnaS, the classic two-part X-Files episode The Blessing Way is a must-see! They are marketed together on one VCR (or maybe even DVD now) tape of the show.


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Adam Beach is playing Ben Yazzie. Beach has played Native Americans before so I suspect he at least *looks the part.

Adam Beach is a real, live Native/Aboriginal/First Nations guy from my hometown of Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada! So I should hope he looks the part... (Just thought I'd get a bit of local pride in there!)


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Adam Beach is a real, live Native/Aboriginal/First Nations guy

Thank you, Bean.

Navajo generally have distinctively Navajo family names. Yazzie would be one of these. [pointless digression]Among the most common of these are Begay and Benally, which mean, as I understand it, something like "his son" or "his father" and were bestowed upon them in a sort of reverse Ellis Island flurry of name assignment by the BIA (Bureau of Indian Affairs) or someone like that during some sort of census like thang (please forgive my waffling here, the details are hazy in my mind) When the People (Diné) were pressed for more than just a personal name they would point (with their lips, a gesture not immediately recognized by Anglos) and say, "his son" or "his father".[/pointless digression]


I realise* that this distinctive name thang is not universal among Native Americans. I also realize that Hollywood has not, in the past, been stellar in its policy of choosing from appropriate ethnic groups in casting of some roles.

*See what bad habits hanging out with all these Brits has polluted me with? Will I ever be forgiven?


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Hollywood has not, in the past, been stellar in its policy of choosing from appropriate ethnic groups in casting of some roles.

In addition to Hollywood failing to choose ethnically-based actors, they also typically fail to choose appropriately disabled actors. How rare is it to see a movie with a real blind, deaf, or mentally handicapped person? [aside] I don't mean this to be an introduction to the terminology used to describe these groups, for I'm only acquainted with the deaf, who do usually prefer the term deaf, and most often, capitalize it as a symbol of cultural pride[/aside]

Marlee Matlin aside, Mr. Holland's Opus was one of the few films that did employee deaf actors.

edit: Anyone remember the Saturn car company commerical several years ago where a woman faked her deafness in a national ad campaign until Saturn found out she was really hearing? Funny thing, in the commercial, she fingerspells S-A-T-E-R-N. Not very deaf if she can't even spell correctly in sign language.


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According to Coming Attractions (http://www.corona.bc.ca/films/details/windtalkers.html) it's coming out Nov 9.

IMdB (http://us.imdb.com/Title?0245562) has a synopsis of the plot. Nic Case *is playing an Anglo.


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Brandon adds: Anyone remember the Saturn car company commerical several years ago where a woman faked her deafness in a national ad campaign until Saturn found out she was really hearing? Funny thing, in the commercial, she fingerspells S-A-T-E-R-N. Not very deaf if she can't even spell correctly in sign language.

Thanks again for another of your interesting insights, Brandon -- again, you've brought up something that's got my curiosity going. I know quite a few fluent, articulate non-deaf people who can't spell worth a darn in their "native" languages. Are you saying there's no such thing as a Deaf person who fingerspells poorly?


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AnnaS writes: Are you saying there's no such thing as a Deaf person who fingerspells poorly?

Thanks for your encouragement, AnnaS. No, I'm not saying that the bell curve for lousy spelling has skipped the deaf community. I do, however, think both the faking-deafness woman and Saturn would have the sense to proofread a commercial that got good national air time. If I paid hundreds of thousands for air time, I'd make sure Saturn was spelled correctly.

And by the way, when fingerspelling in ASL, I do misspell quite frequently. Guess that is why I can't get commercial bits (oh, and I'm not deaf, either ).



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