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#36531 07/26/01 11:20 AM
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Today George Dubya (dubbed "Shrub" by political columnist Molly Ivens) is going to host a ceremony honoring these fine indigenous (yet not aboriginal) SW US folk who helped the US Marines on the Pacific front in WWII.

There are four surviving code-talkers, and apparently a movie is in the works on this. I am fascinated by them, and in my informal, haphazard readings on Ænigma (the other one) I've run across some info on them.

Can anyone point me to a web site or book or other source on the code-talkers, and does anyone know anything about this movie?




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I could look for a web site; I could try to track down the movie.

What I *do know:

A) They weren't talking just straight Diné Bizaad, which had no words for such things as P-38 or 100 pound bombs (e.g.) anyway. They used different kinds of birds to refer to different kinds of airplanes and bombs were eggs, for example. This doesn't sound to this miserable Fool like any sort of unbreakable code but.

2) The Germans, although they had studied American Indian languages extensively, had never studied Navajo or, apparently, the closely related Apache languages. Thus they had no information to share with the Japanese to help them understand what was going on.


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http://www.lapahie.com/Navajo_Reagan_Lg.cfm

This is a citation of the code talkers by President Reagan

http://www.yvwiiusdinvnohii.net/history/usmccode.htm

The second URL is History of the code talkers

#36534 07/26/01 04:25 PM
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http://www.mgm.com/windtalkers/ is the movie's official site. I'm not sure Nicholas Cage is the first guy I think of when I think "Navajo," though.


#36535 07/26/01 05:05 PM
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WHAT IS IT WITH NICHOLAGE CAGE?????????????? Can't someone make a movie WITHOUT him for once???????????


#36536 07/26/01 05:51 PM
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WHAT IS IT WITH NICHOLAGE CAGE??????????????

And why does everyone put a superfluous "h" in his first name?

(I sympathize, Bean: I'm a bit tired of ol' Nic too.)


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NICHOLAGE CAGE -- superfluous "h"?

Besides which, it's Nicholage Case!


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But a movie's not a movie until you see William H Macy rolling by in the credits...


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> William H Macy

oh, yeah! the latter day Wallace Shawn....


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He's playing Sgt. Joe Enders. Enders is not a common Navajo name. I suspect he's an Anglo.

Adam Beach is playing Ben Yazzie. Beach has played Native Americans before so I suspect he at least *looks the part.


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