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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Page 3 of 8 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Re: Architected #33253 06/25/01 01:22 PM Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 2,379 New York City I inselpeter Pooh-Bah inselpeter Pooh-Bah I Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 2,379 New York City <<Can't they come up with something new, instead of this slack verbification? >> "Architecht?" Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Architected #33254 06/25/01 02:05 PM Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 3,439 New England, USA W wow Carpal Tunnel wow Carpal Tunnel W Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 3,439 New England, USA Military campaigns, ... have their "architects" too. Usually refering to the person putting the grand plan together rather than the more detailed design. Aren't they Strategists (grand plan) and Tacticians (detailed design)! OR ... Am I hoplessly out of date? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Architected #33255 06/25/01 03:05 PM Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 609 Portsmouth, United Kingdom R rodward addict rodward addict R Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 609 Portsmouth, United Kingdom Military campaigns, ... have their "architects" too Aren't they Strategists (grand plan) and Tacticians (detailed design)! Yes they are that. I was just showing that the term architect had been widely used/abused before the IT industry. And there are two arguments her; firstly, whether architect is acceptable as a noun in the IT industry; and secondly, whether verbing it is acceptable. I am happy with the first, but then I am in the IT industry and have had architect in my title or job description often enough. It seems a reasonable parallel (as far as I can find out from my real architect friends). I find the verbification ugly, but that is a general battle to be fought. Who is going to architect our grand campaign? Rod Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Architected #33256 06/25/01 03:22 PM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 rodward finds the verbification ugly How about architectificatatenize? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Architected #33257 06/25/01 06:11 PM Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,757 M maverick Carpal Tunnel maverick Carpal Tunnel M Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,757 Yeah, that fits the elegant perfession that gave us Windoze Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Architected #33258 06/26/01 05:09 AM Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 3,146 Northamptonshire, England Capital Kiwi Carpal Tunnel Capital Kiwi Carpal Tunnel Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 3,146 Northamptonshire, England I've been both a database architect and a database designer. The one pertains to tbe overall structure of the database system, not only in relation to the information it is going to store but also in terms of its relationships with the user, the computer system it runs on and other database systems with which it has to interact. The other, design, is determining what data gets stored where and the relationships between the data items which are being stored. However, I loathe and detest the use of the verbified form "to architect". I can see no new meaning or nuances of existing meaning which can justify using it instead of designed, in exactly the same way that you would discuss the work of the architect of a house. Jargon is useful in its place, but this is one term which belongs in the nether depths (with MacDonalds burgers). The idiot also known as Capfka ... Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Architected #33259 06/26/01 05:33 AM Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass tsuwm Carpal Tunnel tsuwm Carpal Tunnel Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass bushwa. as has been demonstrated, architecture is different from design. why ambiguate things by using the same verb for both? furthermoreover and in the second place, architect has been extant as a verb since early 18C. 1818 Keats Let. 23 July (1931) I. 219 This was architected thus By the great Oceanus. 1890 Harper's Mag. Apr. 809/2 We would not give being the author of one of Mr. Aldrich's beautiful sonnets to be the author of many ‘Wyndham Towers’, however skilfully architected. 1912 Rose Macaulay Views & Vag. viii. 153, I have no sort of interest in the architecting or building trades. 1913 Raleigh Some Authors (1923) 3 He has come out of the prison-house of theological system, nobly and grimly architected. 1923 Public Opinion 29 June 622/3 A+vague notion that a building ought to be architected. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Architected #33260 06/26/01 11:20 AM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Glad to see you on my side, tsuwm, but. Um, how to say this... 1818 is early 19th century. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Architected #33261 06/26/01 12:22 PM Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass tsuwm Carpal Tunnel tsuwm Carpal Tunnel Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass um... that was my abbreviation for 1800s... yeah, that's the ticket. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Architected #33262 06/26/01 12:25 PM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 18c (c={1}00) I can live with that. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Page 3 of 8 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Moderated by  Jackie  Hop To General Topics ------  Information and announcements  Q&A about words  Wordplay and fun  Words and languages in schools  Miscellany  Weekly Themes  Looking for (writers, speakers,... (Old) Weekly themes. 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