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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Rubric/sub rosa #3293 06/02/2000 5:29 PM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 6,511 lower upstate New York AnnaStrophic Carpal Tunnel AnnaStrophic Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 6,511 lower upstate New York Fellow AWAD person Rubrick has cleverly combined the name of a building at Trinity with a nod to the beautiful red brick of said building. Which got me to thinking: "rubric" originally coms from the Latin for red, doesn't it? I checked. It does. Very cool. http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=rubric Which brings me to the expression "sub rosa," which far as I remember, means "between me and thee." I'm having trouble looking that one up. As I recall, it coms from some English monarch (Tudor = rose?) who liked to receive visitors in his bed, on the wall above which was painted a rose. This is bugging me, can someone set me straight on the origin? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Rubric/sub rosa #3294 06/02/2000 5:42 PM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 1,981 jmh Pooh-Bah jmh Pooh-Bah Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 1,981 Most of our monarchs (pre Victoria) have been very happy to receive visitors in their beds - we might need to think about that one. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Rubric/sub rosa #3295 06/02/2000 6:03 PM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 6,511 lower upstate New York AnnaStrophic Carpal Tunnel AnnaStrophic Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 6,511 lower upstate New York Oh, dear, and I did try to word that so carefully... even went back and replaced "entertain" with "receive." [crestfallen] Hey, I'm a member now! Where's that party? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Rubric/sub rosa #3296 06/02/2000 6:51 PM Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass tsuwm Carpal Tunnel tsuwm Carpal Tunnel Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,542 this too shall pass Under the rose (sub rosa). In strict confidence. Cupid gave Harpocrates (the god of silence) a rose, to bribe him not to betray the amours of Venus. Hence the flower became the emblem of silence. It was for this reason sculptured on the ceilings of banquet-rooms, to remind the guests that what was spoken sub vino was not to be uttered sub divo. In 1526 it was placed over confessionals. The banquet-room ceiling at Haddon Hall is decorated with roses. (French, parler sous la rose.) credit to THE DICTIONARY OF PHRASE AND FABLE BY E. COBHAM BREWER Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Rubric/sub rosa #3297 06/06/2000 10:06 AM Joined: May 2000 Posts: 679 Somewhere outside New York Rubrick addict Rubrick addict Joined: May 2000 Posts: 679 Somewhere outside New York > Most of our monarchs (pre Victoria) have been very happy to receive visitors in their beds - we might need to think about that one. Damn! I wish I hadn't left so early on Friday. You beat me to it, Jo! Oh, don't forget Edward VII - 'Bertie the bounder!' Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Rubric/sub rosa #3298 06/06/2000 10:10 AM Joined: May 2000 Posts: 679 Somewhere outside New York Rubrick addict Rubrick addict Joined: May 2000 Posts: 679 Somewhere outside New York > Fellow AWAD person Rubrick has cleverly combined the name of a building at Trinity with a nod to the beautiful red brick of said building. Nice to see a thread about me, Anna (it is about me, isn't it?) . To quote Oscar (again) 'There is only one thing worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about'. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Moderated by  Jackie  Hop To General Topics ------  Information and announcements  Q&A about words  Wordplay and fun  Words and languages in schools  Miscellany  Weekly Themes  Looking for (writers, speakers,... (Old) Weekly themes. (have been... ------  Words from medicine  Beheading words  Meta-words  Words from classical mythology  Animal Safari  Words with unusual etymologies  Eponyms or words derived from p...  Loanwords from German  English as a global language Print Thread Switch to Threaded Mode Show Likes Link Copied to Clipboard View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Website Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary

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