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#3254 06/04/00 07:42 PM
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Whoops, I got my Fotheringay and Steeleye Span mixed up. They are sort of connected via Fairport Connection and Sandy Denny, may she rest in peace.

http://www.informatik.uni-hamburg.de/~zierke/sandy.denny/




#3255 06/06/00 09:58 AM
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> Do you, or folks you know, pronounce 'often' by sounding the 't'? There is a very interesting discussion of this in today's
Random House 'Word of the Day'.

Despite the survey's findings I know of no-one that pronounces 'often' with the 't' silent. I've heard it many times on television (particularly US programmes) but it just doesn't seem to be pronounced any other way than off-ten over here. It really sounds weird with the 't' silent.


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'strornery' the things one takes for granted. The only times that I regularly hear 'often' pronounced with a 't' is among our older folk. Usually among those of the vintage to pronounce 'vase' as 'vorse', 'trough' as 'troe'' and 'scone' as rhyming with 'bone'.


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I was thinking, surely that wasn't Fotheringay, but I'm never *quite* sure with these things.

Fairport Convention are great. :-)

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I've never really noticed often pronounced without the 't' other than as a sort of slang thing - generally by people who just can't be bothered to speak properly at all. It sits with dropping 'h's and the like.

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Scone - bone is an interesting one.

The pronunciation of scone does not go along the lines of class/wealth or anything else.

Where I was brought up scone rhymed with bone, scone rhyming with upon was considered to be a bit pretentious.

Here in Edinburgh my children tell me that scone rhymes with upon and scone rhyming with bone is a bit "posh".


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I don't recall ever hearing the 'scon' pronunciation here is the US.


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Here in Australia the bone pronunciation would be considered a bit posh, too. To confuse things though we have a town called Scone - pronounced as in bone. How about that.


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Scone - bone is an interesting one.

The pronunciation of scone does not go along the lines of class/wealth or anything else.

Where I was brought up scone rhymed with bone, scone rhyming with upon was considered to be a bit pretentious.

Here in Edinburgh my children tell me that scone rhymes with upon and scone rhyming with bone is a bit "posh".

That's interesting. My aunt in Scotland says the complete opposite! Scone (pronounced 'scon') is the posh way (and proper way, in her opinion) and scone (rhyming with bone) the more common.

There is aswell, the Palace of Scone in Scotland which is pronounced 'scoon'. Just to confuse matters .

While we're on the subject of words of this nature what about all the different ways that you can pronounce words that end in 'ough'? I believe there are nine different ways and you can form a coherent sentence using an example of each. I'll try to remember it for a later posting.


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There was something in previous thread about -ough endings. It was called "schoolwork" in Q&A about words in May.


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