#32381
06/15/2001 11:06 AM
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Jackie, forgive me for asking this, but...
There is a vulgar expression "crazier than a s***house rat" which I have heard occasionally. I wonder where does this come from? That is, I wonder why a rat in a latrine would suffer from mental disorder? I would think it would be quite content in such a place.
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#32382
06/15/2001 11:13 AM
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Oh, I thought this was a thread about Republicans.  Actually®, I never really thought about it, but I suppose an outhouse would be a fine environment for said rodent. I imagine the expression comes from the human's point of view: Damn, that rat loves it in this s***house! He must be crazy!
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#32383
06/15/2001 11:28 AM
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In reply to:
Oh, I thought this was a thread about Republicans
Hilarious. Thank you very much.
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#32384
06/15/2001 12:24 PM
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"I would think it would be quite content in such a place."
Since there is nothing to eat there, only a crazy rat would be content.
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#32385
06/15/2001 1:05 PM
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Rats!-- but this is a yart-- we can start it up again.. but we had oodle of rats expressions. Rats up (and down) the drain, wet rats, things that looked like a rats tails--
It was --oct? Nov? of last year...
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#32386
06/15/2001 3:16 PM
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In defence of Alex, this is not just about rats. It is a question about how a phrase made sense to someone. It is totally unreasonable to expect relative newcomers to search back over a month.I still resent the waste of two hours I put into trying to discover how "ayleurs" originated. Old timers can simply ignore posts that don't interest them.Sorry, dear Helen, I do not want to offend you.
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#32387
06/15/2001 3:42 PM
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point of view'nuff to drive any rodent mad 
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#32388
06/15/2001 4:58 PM
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Dr bill, no offence-- -- I understand what you mean-- i know there is a rat thread--and even I am loath to search-- but it was a lovely long thread-- and rehashing (yet another rehashed topic) a topic in less than a year can be boring--
there are several options...
search, (and eventualy find it)
ask someone to assist with the search, (and maybe have more (or less!) luck, or
just continue the yart-- and let us old hands, and booh pahs deal with it!
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#32389
06/15/2001 6:10 PM
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My opinion of the phrase is that it is a second rate knockoff on the much older one "poor as a churchmouse". Church mice were desperately poor in the sense that in the early churches when the phrase was coined, there was no food stored nor any eating (except communion wafers).
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#32390
06/16/2001 6:54 PM
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Well, if you were a claustrophobic rat living on a steady diet of s*** you'd go crazy, too! 
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#32391
06/16/2001 7:25 PM
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God forbid that any public toilet should be so mis-managed or misused such that a rodent could find "a steady diet' there.
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#32392
06/18/2001 3:32 AM
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"crazier than a rat in an sh_thouse"
I believe this was first said by a wife of her foolishly scheming husband whose merely scheming father was hiding in the outhouse having duped his son into marrying her, and just after she'd revealed to her father-in-law that the house he was sitting in constituted her entire estate and dowry.
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