Yes-- Flatlander-- i alway like the trouble out of towner have with SUNY and CUNY (Sue -knee and Coo -knee) the State Universiy and the City University systems in NY..

out west it's all UCLA, or UCSC, here its "Stony Brook, SUNY, and SUNY Bingington..with the SUNY moving positions, even though it should be SUNY first (state university of n y at ....) and in NY, CUNY exist, as a system, but no one "goes" to CUNY-- they always just name the college. (I go to John Jay, or I'm at Leman )

Sparteye-- how is done in Michigan-- Is Anne Arbor more important (vs Kalamazoo?) or is MSU-- (as in MSU at anne arbor... ?


my other obsession