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And governments that compelled citizens to vote have also told them how to vote - or else.
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I treasure my right to choose not to vote... As do I, Max, as do I! ...at a loss to understand how any country whose system of government is built on respect for freedom of choice and freedom of expression can attepmt to compel its citizens to vote.I'm at the same loss when it comes to having to pay taxes for programs for which there is no *true popular mandate! ...should be viewed as an indictment on the political process... It is, even the 'media' cries 'wolf', but is has no *effect when the laws are changed by the people voting... It is time for a law that says either there is enough voter turn out... let's say '51% of the population'... or the election is deemed the political equivalent of a 'mistrial', all the candidates are loosers, and it is time to start over... no deadlines. Why come up with such a rigid structure anyway (here it's Jan 20th every four years - 'or else')  .
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I treasure my right to choose not to vote...
That's fine, but you now have absolutely no room to complain when the voting populous makes a decision.
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...absolutely no room to complain...
JazzO - Since your quote is from Max (and I'd imagine he's a bit busy today) and thread response to me... However, I speak for myself (as usual)...
When there are no candidates that represent my opinion enough for me to vote for them, my vote is to change the process. This why the effect of not voting needs to have some legal influence. There is no doubt about the effect that not voting has, and if freedom of expression is to be maintained, logically, this form of expression must be acknowledged.
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Dear Max: Neither nationalism or patriotism are inherently vicious, it is the excessive zeal with which some abuse them that leads to wars.
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Max's feelings on patriotism and nationalism are noted. I must chime in, though, by publically stating that I think the most pernicious evil can be found in commercialism. I have more respect for groups who fight over religion, feelings of independence, or statehood. But to see peoples, cultures, and whole languages destroyed for commercial enterprise gets me going.
Anyone wanna buy a coke at McDonalds?
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There is no doubt about the effect that not voting has Right-o, musick!...it gave us Clinton and W. Bush, respectively (and I use that last term loosely)!  And, while Max presents a convincing arument for not voting, I agree with JazzO on this point. If you choose not to vote fine...but then don't complain about the political situation, either.
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