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06/06/2001 3:38 PM
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In the thread on Airing Cupboards we went off thread to discuss hobs, elements and burners..
In the same vien (and down Ponder Avenue a bit) what does your water come out- tap, spigot or faucet?
and what do you call the large thing in the room with all the plumbing fixures? (and the other things... sink? basin? or lav? ) and out side, when there is a fire, to what do the firemen attach their hoses? (in NY alone, there are 3 correct answers to that question!)
A riot? in what are the protesters/rioters hauled away in?
we have had fun with this sort of thing with closets/ wardrobes, silverware/cutlery..
we might even discuss what is under your house-- (an other flat? an apartment? a floor through? a basement? a celler? or ?????) Or being us-- we might just go off tangent immediately!
Oh, yes--How do you get the water for house hold use hot? --Anyone still do it by the shilling (or new pence equivient)?
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06/06/2001 3:56 PM
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In our kitchen (and bathroom, for that matter), the water comes out of the faucet and into the sink (the kitchen sink has two basins, though). The firefighters (not all men) attach their hoses to a fire hydrant. [hydrant tangent] My father once had a summer job painting fire hydrants for the Town. I can't imagine a duller job, but he said it was easy money. Also, in Vermont fire hydrants often have long metal poles with a "flag" on top attached to them so you can find them in the winter. Every year the fire dept. reminds everyone to shovel out their local hydrants for easy access if there is a fire.[/hydrant tangent] Protesters (much more common than rioters in Vermont) get hauled away in handcuffs (or "paddy wagons" if you are looking for the politically incorrect name for the van they get thrown in for transport to the station). There's only a shallow crawl space under our apartment, but a basement/cellar under the rest of the house (I use the terms interchangeably). Whew! Back to work!
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#31346
06/06/2001 4:22 PM
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Our water comes out of a tap or faucet.
the large thing in the room with all the plumbing fixures?The bathtub? The thing for washing your hands is a sink.
You attach your hose to a fire hydrant (what other words are there, of troy?).
[to Flatlander] I always thought the poles were to keep the snowplows from running over the fire hydrants during the winter. The hydrants would be invisible without them.
Under our house is an "unfinished basement" meaning it has a dirt floor, the door is outside (you can't get to it thorugh the house), but you can store things in it and someone has attempted to make a little workroom there. There's a work bench and some electrical outlets.
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06/06/2001 7:11 PM
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Dear of troy: In New England a hundred years ago, a cellar was very desirable as a place to store vegetables, fuel for the heating system, and protect the first floor from moisture while tending to insulate it also.The cellar was also the location of utility inputs. An attic, usually unfinished provided protection from the summer heat, and somewhat decreased heat loss in winter. Bathtubs had not yet had showers added. (Horrid idea, sitting in your own ablutions.) Woodstoves were just beginning to be replaced by gas stoves. My mother was glad when an electric stove replaced the gas stove. Insulation was virtually non-existent, which made houses harder to heat. But the new houses, so well insulated and energy efficient, are less healthful. There was an article in NEJM right after WWII, describing the bafflement of French pediatricians trying to explain why there fewer children hospitalized because of pneumonia during the Nazi occupation than before it or after it. Their conclusion was that an unheated house was healthier for children than a heated one. The rugs in today's houses get heavily contaminated with all sorts of infectious and allergenic substances, which easily become airborne, and there is too little air exchange to clear them. Just as airplanes have terribly unhealthy air. Maybe I should get off my soapbox at this point.
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06/06/2001 7:22 PM
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You attach your hose to a fire hydrant (what other words are there, of troy?).
Fire plug.
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06/06/2001 8:00 PM
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Thanks Faldage-- I have 2 other words... and I'll send them private for now.. I bet when you read them, you'll recognize them.. even if they are not the names you commonly use...
and what do you have in your Plumbing room (and is it a water closet, bathroom, wash room.. Lavatory...?
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06/07/2001 1:07 AM
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I get water from the faucet, and it goes into the sink. I have sinks in my kitchen, and also in the bathrooms. The firefighters around here would probably get water from the pond, since there are no fire hydrants here in the boonies.
The hot water in my house comes from: (get ready) the hot water heater [ta da!]
Most people around here have a basement, but our house is a walk-out, and I tend to call the bottom floor both the basement and the lower level.
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06/07/2001 3:28 AM
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Water comes out of the taps into a sink in the kitchen and into a sink or washbasin (same thing, different names) in the bathroom, which has, alas, no bath, only a shower, and a loo or toilet (again same thing, different names).
When I was living in Bandung, there was no washbasin or shower in the bathroom, just a big tank of water filled from a tap. To bathe, there was a scoop (like a child's beach bucket but with a saucepan handle) and I would just pour water over myself with that, soap up, and then repeat. As the water was very cold, coming straight from a mountain spring, this was much the best way.
Larger houses (and quite a few restaurants) here also have a washbasin in the dining room, much more convenient for washing your hands before and after meals.
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06/07/2001 9:14 AM
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our house is a walk-outSparteye, what is a walk-out? Oh, unlike your neighbours who have drive-ins, jump-offs, fall-outs, etc. ????? I have a bathroom which has a bath (it would not be a bathroom in UK without one) and a basin/sink, bidet, toilet/loo and the water comes out of taps, the hot having been heated by the boiler. We also have a downstairs cloakroom with a toilet and sink, and incidentally the stopcock. The kitchen has a sink and a draining board. No one in UK has a faucet that I know off (Though we do have a pub in Fawcett Road with the name Fawcett Inn  ) We have very few fire hydrants in UK. In Swiss viallges, they are common because of the wooden chalets, but they are often painted as little men; a waiter outside the cafe, a soldier, etc. Quiet a few houses in Portsmouth have basements which are habitable half underground levels, and some have cellars, usually completely underground and storage (for spiders). Rod
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06/07/2001 10:54 AM
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a downstairs cloakroom with a toilet and sink, Umm...here the cloakroom is where you hang your coat, at school, or at church, or at some other public function. A bit too public for toilets! 
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06/07/2001 12:05 PM
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the cloakroom is where you hang your coatWe have that meaning in UK too, but its use as a euphemism for toilet is probably more widespread. Or dropping into the sewer (literally) it was a corruption of cloaca-room  Rod
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06/07/2001 12:57 PM
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Sparteye, what is a walk-out?
A walk-out is a house constructed on a slope, so that at least one side of the bottom floor is at ground level. The walk-out level has the construction attibutes of a foundation floor, but is (usually) finished and is used as living space. So-called because one can walk out of the house from that floor through a door directly to the outside.
Example: my house appears to be a two-story house when viewed from the front, with the first floor (called ground floor, I think, in the UK) at ground level, having the main entrance to the house and the general public living areas of living room, dining room, kitchen and so on. But, when viewed from the back, due to the slope of the ground, the house has another, lower floor. From the back, entrance to the backyard is from the level below the first floor. That lower level/basement has a finished recreation room, a bar and a bathroom, and doors and windows to the outside. To access the first floor from the backyard, you must go up steps to a deck and then to doors which go into the sunroom or garage.
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06/07/2001 1:01 PM
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the cloakroom is where you hang your coat
We have that meaning in UK too, but its use as a euphemism for toilet is probably more widespread.
And the Brits cracked wise about the Merkins' euphemism, bathroom.
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06/07/2001 1:06 PM
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A walk-out! Just what our house in the woods is. The front door is around back and leads into the living room. It is at ground level but that floor is one story above the ground level in the back of the house (which is in the front as seen from the road if you can see it from the road which you can't in the summer because the trees are all leafed out and which you can't in the winter because it's snowing too hard {Sorry E}). The door at ground level in the back of the house leads into the basement. Don't usually go that way in the summer but in the winter the slope down from the front door can be treacherous so I go in and out the basement door.
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06/07/2001 1:29 PM
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A walk-out is a house constructed on a slopeThanks for that Sparteye. We have houses built on slopes too (and sloping houses come to that) but I don't think we have a word for them. My Aunt's house is built into the side of the Malvern Hills with the kitchen wall almost just plastered rock, and you can walk out of the upstairs bedroom to the garden (which is a 1 in 4 slope!). And yes the floor at ground level is the ground floor in UK. The first floor above that is the first floor. We didn't think of naming the first floor you came to as the first floor Rod
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06/07/2001 4:26 PM
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" And the Brits cracked wise about the Merkins' euphemism, bathroom."
Dear Sparteye: Since when are pubic wigs capable of voicing euphemisms?
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06/07/2001 4:36 PM
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Dr. Bill asks: Since when are pubic wigs capable of voicing euphemisms?
Oh, please Dr. Bill. It's bad enough listening to the English school boys giggling, but when one of US'ns falls into this parochial tittering it's time to speak up proudly! US'ns is Merkins by gar and plane tree! And US'ns ain' gone let no fourth rate economy say no differments!
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06/07/2001 6:04 PM
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tap, spigot or faucet?
Most common is faucet but tap fairly common and spigot mostly for water source outside like for watering the garden or washing the car.
the large thing in the room with all the plumbing fixures?
Toilet, sink and bathtub with shower called a bathroom. If just a basin and toilet then it's a half-bath or powder room especially if on ground floor for use by guests.
Lav to me means a lavatory which is a holdover from my convent school days ... more commonly called a Ladies Room ... toilets in cubicles and a bank of wash basins.
firemen attach their hoses to a hydrant for municipal water
protesters/rioters hauled away in Black Maria, Paddy Wagon.
what is under your house My house is slab-built which means I have no basement (old fashioned word) or cellar (more common) and tho I sometimes miss the storage a cellar offers, other times I'm glad I don't have the temptation to amass yet more "stuff!"
the water for household Hot water heater with "Quick return" ... which means my guests and I can take showers one following quickly upon another, without my having to bath in frigid aqua. Heavenly!
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06/07/2001 7:15 PM
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well in NYC-- and i think in some other east coast cities--Hydrants can be
Fire plugs
Fire pumps (recently saw one with this label, brooklyn side of Brooklyn Bridge)
Johnie pumps
Jonhie plugs (rare)
and fireman also connect their hoses to Stand pipes (to feed sprinkler systems)-- No one else uses these terms? or now having heard them-- can you think of some that have slipped your mind?
there is (was) a NY street game Johnie on the pony that uses a fire hydrant (never just hydrant) as an anchor for the game.
and Wow tossed out basin for a bathroom sink-- with out so much as a thought.. (and I hadn't even thought of the word till she tossed it out!)
I thought it interesting that Cloak room exist as a term for a toilet area-- and then remembered the old garde-robe-- which in time past, when england's system of drains was less refined--there were areas next to what we americans would call a closet-- (a small room for clothes) that also included an open shaft for "facilities" (a US Highway euphemism for bathroom-- "Rest Area --Facilities available" ) -- so a garde -robe morphed into a cloakroom-- which, i suspect now, as in times past is actually 2 seperate Rooms-- One for cloaks, and one with "facilities".
I tend to use tap and faucet but my parent more often used spigot-- (water came out of the spigot, after you turn the tap.. what about water spout (like the one the itsy bitsy spider goes up) or is that what I call a leader?
My house has gutter to catch the run off-- the water is then lead down and away from the house by a leader...Or is a water spout like a simple stone "gargoyle"-- an extention that direct the water away from the house-- (but lets it fall freely from the roof line?
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06/07/2001 7:23 PM
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"it's time to speak up proudly! US'ns is Merkins by gar "
With so many choices of nicknames for Americans, why not choose one less susceptible to ridicule.
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06/07/2001 7:26 PM
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Yankee Doodle went to town.
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06/07/2001 7:32 PM
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And remember, it's the same Brits that go around casually knocking people up in the morning.
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06/07/2001 8:05 PM
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But "septic" is just so appropriate. 
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06/08/2001 8:02 AM
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"split-level" houses
To me at least, (but I may be in a minority of 1) split-level houses are where the house is built on a slight slope so some of a single (or each) floor is at a different level (maybe 3-5 feet) from the rest, rather than where the ground floor is different depending on which side of the house you look at.
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06/08/2001 10:34 AM
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casually knocking people up in the morningHey, you've been seriously misinformasticated. This takes years of trainin' and you gotta supply your own long pole 
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06/08/2001 10:58 AM
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In California we call a drinking fountain a drinking fountain or a water fountain, but I have a friend from Rhode Island who calls it a bubbler. Are there other names for this?
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06/08/2001 12:24 PM
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In Brooklyn NY USA, a fire hydrant was often called a "johnny pump"
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06/08/2001 1:02 PM
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Just as airplanes have terribly unhealthy air.Have you ever considered outside seating? Some people call "The leaders of the dogs" (Robin Williams' term for a fire hydrant, because the dogs all salute them) a fire plug. This dates from the very early days of fire departments when water lines had tapered wooden plugs driven into them at various points for hose connection.
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06/08/2001 2:29 PM
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split-level houses
Around here, a split-level is a house with levels half-stories apart. Usually, there are three levels. The main entrance is on the first (ground) floor, and from there, one does up or down five feet or so to the remainder of the living area. Because the lower level is finished living area, it is partially exposed at least on one side, but not necessarily because it is built on a slope; access to windows and doors can be from dug-outs rather than gradual slopes. Split-levels, most of which were built in the 70s, have their own architectural style - limited to quasi-modern-colonial-revival-mixed-with-contemporary - while walk-outs can be just about any style.
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06/08/2001 7:44 PM
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a garde -robe morphed into a cloakroom-- which, i suspect now ... is actually 2 separate Rooms-- One for cloaks, and one with "facilities".
Isn't it interesting that a place to check your coat is a "Cloakroom?" Anyone else wear, or even *own, a cloak?
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06/08/2001 7:50 PM
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well--actually--i do own a heavy black wool irish cloak-- It has a deep hood, and is fastened at the neck with a broach-- It about 15 years old-- and i wear it a couple of time a year-- (you need long gloves-- and you can't drive a car in it)
but i don't own any frocks!
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06/08/2001 10:59 PM
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I, by contrast, own a clook, made of woal, with a hoad, fastened at the neck with a brooch.
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06/09/2001 1:40 PM
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i do own a heavy black wool irish cloak-- It has a deep hood, and is fastened at the neck with a broach-- It about 15 years old-Ah HA ... a Kinsale cloak ?? I have one, of heavy wool melton, made in Ireland during my 1971 visit at a shop succinctly named "The Cloak",a duplicate of the Kinsale Cloak owned by the Grandmother of the lady tailor. The cloaks are still worn by women in Kinsale, Ireland. If you go to Ireland it's a lovely town, much larger and more modern than the Kinsale I visited in 1971 but the cloaks do remain as do the "Spanish" steps between houses, up the *steep hills. Kinsale was well known even in '71 for its fine food! P.S. Max : Superman wore a cape ... big difference!
For a photo: http://www.wingsandroses.com/kinsale.htm or go to Google and type in "Kinsale Cloak"
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06/10/2001 7:48 AM
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In reply to:
Anyone else wear, or even *own, a cloak?
Alas no, but it was something I always wanted as a teenager.
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06/11/2001 1:56 AM
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I, by contrast, own a clook, made of woal, with a hoad, fastened at the neck with a brooch.My dearest Centalian advocate, I hate to broach this subject, but now that you've lost your r's, you seem to be cornfusing your o's and a's. (Did you notice that I (re) covered your r's? )
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06/11/2001 2:33 AM
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I may have occasional trouble with my r's, a's and o's, but at least I dot my i's, cross my t's, and mind my p's and q's, as distinct from my y's, which, together with my wherefores, I never mind. Time [yawn emoticon] to get some z's I think.
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06/11/2001 8:36 PM
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In this part of the world, the firemen hook up to a fire hydrant (formally) or fire plug (informally). A standpipe is a large pipe with big connectors like a fire plug which is found on the side of a building -- a sport of horizontal fire plug which happens to be jutting out of a building wall.
Water in the house comes from the water heater through the spigot (pronounced 'spicket') into the sink (pronounced 'zinc' in Baltimore), bathtub, shower, or laundry tub (a large deep sort of sink found in the basement, or cellar, and used for laundry purposes), sometimes, if plural, called by older persons 'laundry trays'. (These were originally used with the old wringer washers to rinse clothes in.) And if you are a navy or sailing type, the bathroom/loo/cloakroom/toilet may be called the 'head', where you will find the commode, or toilet. [An aside: when we were children, we sometimes had pie a la mode for dessert, which we would call "pie out of the commode" and screech with laughter for a good half hour.]
Here's another set of words for the same thing: in our living room we have a couch, also called a sofa, or what my father would have called a davenport. There is also the recliner, but that's not quite the same thing.
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06/11/2001 10:05 PM
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You closet goth you.
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