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In fact, Martha's Vineyard, Mass., had an extraordinarily large deaf community several hundred years ago
How did this come to be, please?
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Martha's Vineyard deaf population...How did this come to be, please?Extracted from http://marthasvineyard.com/html/penn/history.htm"As a result, intermarriage among Chilmarkers brought out a genetic tendency for deafness. At one time more than one-quarter of Chilmark's residents were deaf and could not speak. Old time Vineyarders remember people signing in Chilmark rather than speaking, a difference, not a disability." There are also records of hearing people on the island using sign language to communicate with other hearing people, even when no deaf were present. You can also check out the book "Everyone Here Spoke Sign Language: Hereditary Deafness on Martha's Vineyard" by Nora Ellen Groce. Harvard University Press.
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Also try 'Seeing Voices' by Oliver Sacks. This talks about the deaf and how they communicate more generally than just Martha's Vineyard, but is absolutely fascinating. (Mind you, I love Oliver Sacks because he starts from the premise of difference rather than disability.)
As for citing sign language, Brandon, keep it up!
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I'll dig this thread out of the mists of time in case anyone wants to look at it in relation to the "words which inflict excrucuating pain" thread. I would have just posted a link but everytime I go past the first page it transmogrifies into another thread. Maybe moving it up the pile will sort out the links. It does, of course digress, like all other threads!!!
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Thank you for bringing this thread up, jmh.
Brandon, I have a question for you. Has anyone tried to use ASL to communicate with autistic people? My son is a high functioning autistic, but struggles so with verbal language processing that I have wondered whether he could better handle language by using his visual learning skills.
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In Hawaii there is an ASL presence and also Gaulladet College. Dearfness and hearing loss is rampant among Native Hawaiians so, through the help of Senator Inouye, Gallaudet has a school in Honolulu. You can start with the basics and go all the way to final certification as a teacher or interpreter of ASL. If you want to learn ASL might as well learn it in Hawaii!!!
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01/16/2001 10:43 PM
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...I would have just posted a link but everytime I go past the first page it transmogrifies into another thread. Maybe moving it up the pile will sort out the links.
I don't think so, Jo. I find that all cross-thread links behave that way. They're OK when I view them in threaded mode, and the first page is OK in flat mode, but if I click another page number or Show All in flat mode, I go to a completely different thread as you found. This applies whether the link has been referred to with showflat.pl or showthreaded.pl in the url.
Can someone with a better understanding of HTML and browser behaviour provide an explanation and/or solution?
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Can someone with a better understanding of HTML and browser behaviour provide an explanation
Whatever you do, you're screwed........
she said in an effort to knit together two aspects of current thread.
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Had a quick look at the HTML - it appears that all behaviour is determined by the server, which is what I would expect. It's a bug, but think of it as a feature ... Microsoft always does.
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>I find that all cross-thread links behave that way. They're OK when I view them in threaded mode, and the first page is OK in flat mode, but if I click another page number or Show All in flat mode, I go to a completely different thread as you found. This applies whether the link has been referred to with showflat.pl or showthreaded.pl in the url.
It may be my computer. It seems to be fine on the threads that are on the first couple of pages in each section, after that, they all go loopy. If I bring a thread to the front it sorts itself out (for me, anyway). Are you saying that you still cannot view this thread without it tangling up?
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Are you saying that you still cannot view this thread without it tangling up?No no, Jo, he said assonantally. This thread displays properly for me, as does any other thread accessed by the normal icons and menus of the board. It's only when I click on a URL which is included within a post as a link to another thread that things go awry. But you're onto something - it seems to be "older" threads that misbehave. Try this example... 1. Correct behaviour. If I click on this link: http://wordsmith.org/board/showflat.pl?Cat=&Board=words&Number=13171a second AWADtalk browser window opens, displaying the correct post "Grammar Primer" from Q&A. If I hit "Show All" I see all posts in that thread. 2. Incorrect behaviour. http://wordsmith.org/board/showflat.pl?Cat=&Board=words&Number=11941, opens the correct post "place names" in Q&A, but Show All inexplicably displays all posts in the MaxQ's "Two times twice" thread!! Beats me!
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01/18/2001 10:07 PM
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>But you're onto something - it seems to be "older" threads that misbehave. Yep, smae thing happens when I try. Funny, I've tried some quite old threads tonight and they appear fine. Unfortunately we wander off the subject so much that sometimes it doesn't even need to cross thread for it to look as if it had gone loopy. 
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I had a deaf defendant in front of me this week and the court assigned an ASL interpreter to assist in the matter. The interpreter asked if he might move a chair such that he would sit with his back to me and his face to the defendant, defense attorney and prosecutor. I said that would be fine but found it mildly distracting to be looking at the back of his head. When the matter was concluded, I told the interpreter that I learned a little sign when my son studied it in college and was therefor able to grasp some of what he was signing. I was puzzled however by a sign which he used several times during the hearing where he would lift his right elbow such that his upper arm was parellel to the floor and put his right hand over his right ear and then move his sightly-cupped fingers up and down rapidly several times behind his ear. I asked what it meant. "Nothing," he replied, "I had an itch."
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FS, that story has the feel of another lawyer joke being born. I hope you laughed!
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