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#29555 05/21/01 04:03 PM
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Present also suggests itself to me in its "to introduce" sense. "Introduce," on its own, implies for me a novelty that can't always be counted on.


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wideyedd'you not think there is a void worth plugging? ---- I think ---- sound is worthy of it's own 'show' word .


OK, so it's invention time.

You show me the sights of London, wideyed, and I'll list you the sounds of Lancaster?
Or maybe I could asound you the melodies of the birds at dawn? (Nah! I'd have to get up to early)



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Or maybe I could [a]asound you the melodies of the birds at dawn?

Perhaps that's just it, RC.... you can sound something for someone. atomica provides:

1.To cause to give forth or produce a sound: sounded the gong.
2.To summon, announce, or signal by a sound: sound a warning.
3.Linguistics. To articulate; pronounce: sound a vowel.
4.To make known; celebrate: “Nations unborn your mighty names shall sound” (Alexander Pope).
5.To examine (a body organ or part) by causing to emit sound; auscultate.i'll thank those prone toward ribaldry to leave this one alone

OTOH, 'sounding' must, by definition, contain an element of causation, so i don't suppose one could sound birdsong, except in imitation. hmm, well it sounded reasonable as i started this post.....[trailing off e]



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Thanks B96-- i had forgotten about definition 5 5.To examine (a body organ or part) by causing to emit sound; auscultate. i'll thank those prone toward ribaldry to leave this one alone

I am sure Dr. Bill knows it-- and I know i have been "sounded"-- it is done when you have pneumonia-- a doctor will tap on your back -- and see if your lungs sound hollow (good) or not (bad--filled with fluid)– the opposite is true if done to your head–hollow (empty is bad)- dull thud – full is good

i wonder if the term for the same process when baking bread-- you know when its done by the sound of the loaf-- a hollow sound is done.

and its done (or was done) to barrels.. And boats.. The sound that returned indicates something–hollow is bad for a barrel but good for a hold on a boat.


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-- a doctor will tap on your back -- and see if your lungs sound hollow (good) or not (bad--filled with fluid

Well - I suppose that if your lungs are full of fluid, a tap on the back might be a cure?


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Well - I suppose that if your lungs are full of fluid, a tap on the back might be a cure?

> You're not a doctor, are you RhubarbC?

To sound or peal, only really works for chimes and gongs.

What about these:

The Berlin Philharmonie evinced Beethoven's 9th for my pleasure.

The teacher demonstrated Bach's use acciaccaturas for me.


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And what about 'to exhibit'?


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The teacher demonstrated Bach's use acciaccaturas for me.

This works for me, but only if the teacher is actually performing the music herself. It also has a didactic connotation for me -- I wouldn't say, "The Boston Pops demonstrated The William Tell Overture very well last night."

I think a coining is the only thing to plug the hole, but it's easier to just walk around it: "You should really listen to the new Poe CD. Let me play it for you."


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Thanks everybody for help . I'm off for a long, hopefully nice weekend - and nothing that interesting

I think I agree with you flatlander that it's easier to walk round holes, but I guess I'm lazy/clumsy at walking around holes (see point 4), and this hole tends to be on a major road for me.

I've had four things sorted out:

1. There isn't a show word for sound.

2. There are other words to circumvent the problem, ie 'kithe' (tsuwm), 'evinced' (belleyouth) and 'sound' (B96) inter alia.

3. There are some potential hole fillers, ie 'list' (RC) and 'asound' (RC).

4. I should be concerned that my cranial barrel has ullaged and my pulmonary hull has flooded, 'though it does explain a thing or two...

Have a nice weekend all!!

PS what exactly are the sounds of Lancaster RC, and are they worth an 'ear?


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-- and just to make the waters even muddier-- you can, of course, smell a sound (as in the fresh salt water smell of Long Island sound-- or Puget Sound-- (this is a YART-- there are other sounds that are less aromatic!


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