#28129
05/01/2001 5:03 PM
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Something to contemplate! (I didn't even try to put this thru dear AEnigma! It would have had a brain storm! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "I think that you will be interested to learn that the European Union Commissioners have announced that agreement has been reached to adopt English as the preferred language for European communications, rather than German, which was the other possibilty. As part of the negotiations, Her majesty's Government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a five-year phased plan for what will be known as EuroEnglish (Euro for short). In the first year, "s" will be used instead of the soft "c". Sertainly, sivil servants will reseive this news with joy, and keyboards could have one less letter. Also the hard "c" will be replaced with "k". Not only will this klear up konfusion, but keyboards kan loose a further letter. There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year, when the troublesome "ph" will be replased by "f". This will make words like "fotograf" 20 persent shorter. In the third year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible. Governments will enkourage the removal of double letters, which have always been a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horible mes of silent "e"'s in the languag is disgrasful, and they would go. By the fourth year, peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing "th" by "z" and "w" by "v". During ze fifz year, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd from words kontaining "ou", and similar changes vud of kors be aplid to ozer kombinations of leters. After ziz fifz yer, ve vil hav a reli sensibl riten styl. Zer vil be no mor trubls or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi tu understand ech ozer. Ze drem vil finali kum tru."
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#28130
05/01/2001 6:18 PM
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An oldie but goodie, Wow. There people in my firm who spell like that anyway, with or without, and almost always without, official blessing ... 
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#28131
05/01/2001 6:47 PM
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Had not seen or heard of it before. (Thanks for the forbearance.) However: Because of your comment now considering myself "an oldie but goodie" and feeling more chipper.
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#28132
05/02/2001 11:17 AM
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Did anyone else notice the mistake in logic in the firs couple of paragraphs?
{forgive me for being a nit-pickin' old bore emoticon}
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#28133
05/02/2001 1:08 PM
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Rhuby Rhuminates: Did anyone else notice the mistake in logic in the first couple of paragraphs?
In the first year, "s" will be used instead of the soft "c". Sertainly, sivil servants will reseive this news with joy, and keyboards could have one less letter. Also the hard "c" will be replaced with "k". Not only will this klear up konfusion, but keyboards kan loose (sic) a further letter.
They're counting the loss of the c key twice.
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#28134
05/02/2001 6:48 PM
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Good call, Rhuby and Faldage.
This looks like a job for Euro-panto!! [hi F!]
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#28135
05/02/2001 6:58 PM
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a job for Euro-panto!! Ich pense yo can hacer la.
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#28136
05/02/2001 7:03 PM
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¡Andele, Faldaje, schnell! Fuerza!
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05/02/2001 7:11 PM
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Bon jour , Hyla, mein amigo. Vous are ein paesano?
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#28138
05/02/2001 7:31 PM
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Bon jour , Hyla, mein amigo. Vous are ein paesano?You could always write a book, "Esperanto - on the new Millenium it rose again from the dead". 
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#28139
05/02/2001 7:44 PM
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You could always write a book, "Esperanto - on the new Millenium it rose again from the dead".
Neues et mejorado!
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#28140
05/03/2001 9:14 PM
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Vous are ein paesano?
Indeed, Faldaje, io suis ein paisano! ¡Viva the vaterland! Che viva!
Mon Faldag - We need a website that will translate the comments of these Anglophonocentric AWADers to Euro-panto for us.
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#28141
05/04/2001 6:36 AM
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Mon Faldag - We need a website that will translate the comments of these Anglophonocentric AWADers to Euro-panto for us.OH, NO WE DON'T! 
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05/04/2001 11:11 AM
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We need a website that will translate the comments of these Anglophonocentric AWADers to Euro-panto for us.
Ganz correcto, Hyla, mein friend. Havo einige sites mich mismo pues non traslaten sie.
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#28143
05/04/2001 2:54 PM
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Ahhh, the Insider Syndrome surfaces yet again! the the former reporter-on-politics mutters to herself. Could you at least give us a link? Or are the membership rolls closed? wow
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05/04/2001 4:03 PM
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#28145
05/10/2001 6:17 PM
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Faldaje: Danke, mate, por las links! Ich estaba flying sans manual, senza idea de l'ezistenza du este site!
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#28146
05/10/2001 6:25 PM
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Muy bitte, mon amigo. Mir es of nothing. I bin gladlich to vous de service be.
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05/10/2001 7:03 PM
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Grande stoff, y'all. 
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05/11/2001 9:18 AM
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Arriving tardes zum bal, a couple of comments. Miles Kington ran a series in Franglais for a long time. The rules were quite strict about what parts of speech were in which language or which grammatical rules applied and it was surprisingly difficult to construct a piece which had the same feel to it.
My wife's grandparents on her mother's side were Swiss and we have spent many a vacation in the family chalet in the Swiss Alps with Swiss (french speaking) relatives. We were often joined on these vacations by a German family from Berlin. (The mother was a Red Cross child who was semi-adopted by the Swiss Great Uncle and Aunt). In this mix there were people who only had one language, some who had two, and others who had three, all to different degrees of fluency. Tryng to ensur ethat everyone had the same idea of where and when we were going and who was doing the shopping for what was a major logistical exercise. Although the Swiss are noted for accomodating different languages (English included), ordering in a restaurant caused endless confusion. As soon as the waitperson thought they had a language to ask the next person in line, they would find somone interpreting again. And yes, sentences were interspersed with "borrowed" words, or could start in one language and end in another. Great fun. Rod
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#28149
05/11/2001 12:35 PM
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Rodward, your vacations remind me of my trip to Germany, which I took with a friend, Olaf, who is a translator. We stayed in the home of a couple of Olaf's long-time friends, and one evening we had dinner at a restaurant with the friends' family, including the mom's sisters. One of the sisters had moved to Italy, and her children spoke no German. I spoke no German. Most people at the table spoke German, and the Italians spoke a bit of French with someone else. I smiled a lot. My weak Spanish didn't enter into things.  All together, there were speakers of about ten languages at the table, and the only one who spoke them all was Olaf. I have always envied him his aptitude.
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05/14/2001 10:35 AM
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re "smelange" in another thread
that reminds me that we used to call this mixture of French/English/German "mélangue" from mélange (mixture) and "langue" (language). And the family when speaking so (the noise level tended to rise) was known as "the mélanguerie" from menagerie. This immediately became mondegreened into "my lingerie". The looks we got from other English on the ski slopes when calling out from the lifts to a member of the family phrases such as "The rest of my lingerie is down at the restaurant" were comical.
Another phrase in common use in the family was "Saucisse Erotica" instead of "Saucisse à rôtir".
Does anyone remember the "Fractured French" phrases such as: coup de grace = lawnmower? I made a fractured translation of La Marseillaise about a year ago. Too big to post so send me a private message if you want iit. (Should this thread be moved? No longer I&A methinks.) Rod
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