Which brings me back to wondering what the Presidential Seal of the US would look like if Ben had had his way. A baster in
one claw, a bunch of cranberries in the other?

Oh, well, pacifism has never sold well. As proof, I note that here in the USA, one often hears Republicans (the usually more hawkish party) threatening, "I'm gonna kick your ass...," yet one never hears a Democrat tree-hugger/ granola cruncher, no matter how large, no matter how well-versed in martial arts, threaten a redneck with, "I'm gonna kick your elephant!"