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#26260 04/08/2001 4:29 PM
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This borders on a food post, but I have to do it. My venerable addition of Joy of Cooking, in addition to having recipes for whale, squirrel, raccoon, and other meats not commonly found at my local butcher's, has a discussion about seasonings in which appears the following phrase: "the highly treasured 'ozmazome' - as the gourmet calls it - which results from rich broths." The quote is incomplete here, because it's rather long, but it deals with flavors accentuated by heat (e.g. roasting of coffee).

So - I googled, and got nothin' of use. So - what's an ozmazome? I wanna make some.

Now - completely abandoning the word part of this post, and going directly for the food aspect: bridget96 doesn't care for brown chocolate? Does this mean you'd rather eat the insipid white stuff? I understand that because it doesn't have cacao in it, it's not actually legal in the US to call it chocolate.

For me, it's bittersweet chocolate (the higher the cacao content the better), and lots of it, or nothing. [/end chocolate fiend soapboxing]


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From Tsuwm's X-refer:

"osmazome

Obsolete name given to an aqueous extract of meat regarded as the 'pure essence of meat'.

A Dictionary of Food and Nutrition, Oxford University Press, © A.E. Bender and D.A. Bender 1995 "




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Oh - maybe I don't want to make some. Is there an ozmazome of chocolate?

In any case - thanks for so speedily expiscating the answer.


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Dear Hyla: apparently your cookbook had word misspelled. The citation below mentions a word coined by a French gourmet. However, when I looked at the URL, it did not mention the word at all. Implication seems to be it may have something to do with monosodium glutamate.

RedHerring.com - Isolating the fifth element of taste ...
... may be what Anthelme Brillat-Savarin, the 19th-century gourmet, attempted to capture
when he coined the awful word osmasome to describe the essence of meatiness ...
http://www.redherring.com/insider/2001/0209/tech-mag-92-taste020901.html

Dear Hyla: what kind of fishing tackle do you use to "expiscate" words?


As an addendum, my dictionary has "anosmia" for loss of ability to smell, but has no other "osmia" words.

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>Dear Hyla: what kind of fishing tackle do you use to "expiscate" words?

perhaps I am culpable for this one? (it's what i've called the search function at the wwftd web page)
expiscate - to learn through laborious investigation; to search out; literally, to fish out


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White chocolate
For official and legal purposes, such as for imports or exports, it is illegal not only in the U.S. but in the entire civilized world to equate white chocolate with "real" chocolate because white chocolate does not contain cocoa.

Nearly every country in the world subscribes to the Harmonized Tariff System, a listing of every commodity, product and material thing in the world. The HTS breaks down nearly everything there is into 98 chapters. Chapter 18 covers "Cocoa and Cocoa Preparations" and includes chocolate and chocolate products (in great detail). Chapter 17 covers "Sugars and Sugar Confectionery" including, under heading 1704: "Sugar confectionery (including white chocolate), not containing cocoa". Notes and interpretations of this monumental work make it clear that the term "white chocolate" does not mean that the product is actually chocolate, which, in fact, it is not because it does not contain cocoa; the term is used in 1704 only because it's a common name for what is actually a sugar confection.

Hence, we learn that "white chocolate" is a kind of oxymoron.


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A couple of points:

1. Credit does go to tsuwm for expiscate, and much pleasure to me in using it. Glad my usage wasn't corrected.

2. Never, never, in all my born days, did I expect to hear the Harmonized Tarriff Schedule (I think that's the proper name) mentioned on this board. I guess Boby is in the import/export business, so it makes sense he'd know of it (and probably know it better than I). I work at the US Environmental Protection Agency, and work a lot with US Customs on hazardous waste imports and exports, and have been banging my head against problems with the HTS in that realm for the last year or so.

Glad to know that, in this case, the HTS and I are in complete agreement.


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" perhaps I am culpable for this one? (it's what i've called the search function at the wwftd web page)
expiscate - to learn through laborious investigation; to search out; literally, to fish out"

Dear Hyla and tsuwm: I certainly did not mean to offend by the "fishing tackle" quip. I was glad to learn a new word, and was trying to so indicate.I regret not making this clear.




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Bill -

Please don't worry about it - I certainly took no offense.

I would defer to tsuwm as to the selection of the ideal equipment for fishing out words - his expertise in the matter being far greater than mine, as evidenced by the fat, glittering examples, fresh from the river of language, that he's shared with us. [overlypoeticon]

I hope that the recent descent into slightly less-than-clever innuendo, and the resultant discussion of its place on this board, doesn't cause us all to over-correct and completely bowdlerize our each and every post.

Hyla expiscatorii


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Dear Hyla~

how exciting to see my name was mentioned during my weekend haitus... and how equally disappointing to find that you're merely one of the minions who lust after dark chocolate. i prefer to think of mine as a more refined palate .

yes, i eat the white stuff. not often though, as desserts in general are not my favorite fare (i tend to be drawn first to proteins, then to carbs, but i don't suppose my eating habits are of much fascination to anyone a-Board, so moving right along...). and yes, before anyone hastens to remind me, i am well aware that my distaste for chocolate is a disgrace to my gender--a snub of my womanhood--to say nothing of a slap in the face of cupid. ever the iconoclast, i am.

there was a point to this seemingly gratuitous post: Hyla's bearmeat cookbook (be a dear, leave me off of your next dinner party list, please?) reminded me of something funny that circulated email a while back, comparing home economics as taught to young women in the 1950's to that which might be taught today. For your delectation: http://home.pacbell.net/kmboyce/humor/men-vs-women/home-ec.html

~b


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Thank you for that link ... brought back some memories I can tell you!
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