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#26236 04/08/01 11:18 AM
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Jackies' post which had remninded me of the "wow, you mean there's kulcha in NZ?" atttitude that was common once upon a long ago.

Point of clarification, if you please: I was amazed for two reasons only: mostly the fact that the source of info. about Scottish language was so far from Scotland,
and to a lesser extent simply that that info. would come from anywhere other than Scotland. [Don't be so danged
paranoid emoticon] It looked like, from one of the book titles, that there was a pocket or two of land in NZ that was settled by Scots a century or two ago. 'Sides, I happen to know for a fact that there are some very cultured people in NZ! [Put that in your pipe and smoke it e]

"Mulennium", "ass(k)", return to my "burro"---OW, you guys!



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I rather think I'm glad I've missed this thread up until now.



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Sort of bringing this back to the original question: I have heard "all mucked up" used to describe something that is messed up, but not "muckled up".

When I was a kid, the term "muckle" was used in the sense of necking - as in energetic kissing. When 2 kids at a high school party retreated to a corner to make out, they were said to be muckling. I don't believe this usage ever attained widespread acceptance, and as such behavior is rare these days at my office, I don't have much occasion to use it.


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To confuse things, the Dictionary of Newfoundland English has a totally different definition:

muckle v To tug or strenuously pull up (something).
1924 ENGLAND 237 Here I been workin' ahl me life, draggin' and 'aulin, mucklin' up
grayples. 1975 RUSSELL 20 'Did you get 'em all dug up?' said I. 'Yes, Paddy,' said she,
'every blessed one of 'em, exceptin' one ... one of 'em was a bit too big for me to muckle.
So I left it bide for you and the crew to handle.'

I've been away for a bit so it's taking me a while to get back into the swing of things. Thought I would make a first post using mostly someone else's words!


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Bean, your post triggered a memory. I suddenly remembered my Grandfather McDermott using the word in a similar way as you defined it ...To tug or strenuously pull up
I remember his tasking his sons (my uncles) to "muckle in a load of wood for the fire."
Haven't heard it since then. Perhaps it's an old-time phrase. Grandfather was born in Leeds England and mayhap he brought the phrase with him?
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