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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Hogen-mogen: rusty cage #222590 10/19/2015 2:44 PM Joined: May 2014 Posts: 514 May addict May addict Joined: May 2014 Posts: 514 Speaking of The New Yorker, Yesterday I read Strangers In Your Brain (Cliff hanger, bites nails....) Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Hogen-mogen: rusty cage etc. May #222609 10/20/2015 7:36 PM Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,295 Netherlands, the Hague BranShea Carpal Tunnel BranShea Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,295 Netherlands, the Hague Hogen-mogen. Speaking of the devil, as a Dutchman I think it's fun to see a week of Dutch words on the menu. The hogen- part of yesterday's word lives on in today's Dutch language as hoog, adjective, meaning high. The mogen- part survives in it's original form, but the usage has changed. Mogen is now a verb meaning to have permission, to be allowed to.......whatever It is also captured in the word vermogen, meaning as a verb : to be capable of, meaning as a noun: capital/ equity Have a nice week. Last edited by BranShea; 10/20/2015 7:38 PM. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter On good authority BranShea #222613 10/21/2015 3:29 AM Joined: May 2014 Posts: 514 May addict May addict Joined: May 2014 Posts: 514 Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: On good poppy-talk May #222641 10/22/2015 6:34 PM Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,295 Netherlands, the Hague BranShea Carpal Tunnel BranShea Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,295 Netherlands, the Hague Stepping lightly over toenadering, ( nothing to do with toe) which is of current day-to-day use in the Netherlands, I'd like to add some poppy-cock. I've searched and followed quite a number of lively online guessings on the word ; it all keeps turning around this: 1840-1850 Americanism; perhaps from < Dutch pappekak, equivalent to pappe- + kak excrement. Nothing more defined. In Dutch dictionaries and etymologies the word pappekak is not to found. (so far) On the other hand, there is Dutch word in traditional and actual use: poppestront - doll's shit. (not exactly the same connotation as poppy-cock but in the same direction). The word kak is still alive but not considered a refined word to use in table conversations like here on this board. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Humorless poppycocks in my limited experience BranShea #227778 12/17/2017 3:30 PM Joined: Sep 2016 Posts: 399 Nevada may2point0 enthusiast may2point0 enthusiast Joined: Sep 2016 Posts: 399 Nevada I asked the river About its destination And came out lucky: It babbled about nothing And never came to a point.... Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Moderated by  Jackie  Hop To General Topics ------  Information and announcements  Q&A about words  Wordplay and fun  Words and languages in schools  Miscellany  Weekly Themes  Looking for (writers, speakers,... (Old) Weekly themes. (have been... ------  Words from medicine  Beheading words  Meta-words  Words from classical mythology  Animal Safari  Words with unusual etymologies  Eponyms or words derived from p...  Loanwords from German  English as a global language Print Thread Switch to Threaded Mode Show Likes Link Copied to Clipboard View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Website Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Website Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary

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