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On March 15, this venerable forum will celebrate one year of existence. I think we ought to do something to celebrate. Keeping in the spirit of the uniquely controlled anarchy of this community, I am going to suggest one type of celebration and then fall back and let y'all fall in. To wit: how about we each post our favorite thread from the past year and contribute to the virtual party something comestible/potable unique to our individual regions? Let's discuss it here first, and then, on the date, we'll start a new topic, to be the actual celebratory venue. I also suggest Jo aka jmh be the mistress of ceremonies, since she has demonstrated remarkable skill in that area.  (If this is too creepy to some, I do not want to hear about it) 
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AWADtalk is indeed something special, something worth celebrating. I am too new to have any clever ideas about which past threads deserve resurrection, and too lacking in talent to have any good new ideas. But I'll be in the cheering section when the more gifted among us go to work.
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It is not creepy to me. I'm game!
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I think its a good idea too. I am sure someone will probably comment something about the Ides of March here too.
Any takers?
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May I help decorate?
St. Patrick's Day is March 17.
Perhaps shamrocks combined with the golden wheel as in the center of the flag of India, for Anu's ancestry?
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"The ides of March are here".
Aye, but not gone, Satin. But they don't last very long, let's see some proposals.
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I'm still very new at this, but I'm already having such a good time, albeit without much sleep over the past few days since I joined! So, YES - let's do it - something - oh, I love to cook - I'll make the birthday cake - how does Annie Laurie's Famous Cold Oven Pound Cake sound - I can add fudge frosting and one super large candle... and I promise, I'll make sure each of you gets a bite (  uh-huh)! ps - Annie Laurie is my mother, so I can't share the recipe... family secret and all that
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And you gave Annie Laurie your promise true.....
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... from the song, I suppose, which I should know, but don't! Of course, I did - she IS my mother, after all!
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Bill, you said: let's see some proposals. Will you marry me? Great idea, Anna! You know what we could do?? Ooh! I just thought of this, so I'm just throwing out the first thing that pops into mind--may want some refining later. I was thinking first that maybe we could all send Anu thank-you cards or messages, but that might overload the guy's e-mail even more than it already is. And so then I thought, wouldn't it be nice if we could all make one post, or message, to send to him? And then it occurred to me--surely we can! What if somebody, maybe you, my friend, makes a post telling him thanks, why you like it or whatever. Then, the next person copies yours entirely
on to a new one, then adds their own comments and posts that? Then the third one would copy that entire poston to a new one, and add their comments, making the third paragraph. And so on, clear up to what? March 14th? We should each sign our name, for clarification, and I think if a line of dashes or equal signs were placed after every one, that would help with visual ease of reading. It is my opinion that duplications of sentiments will be quite acceptable. I also foresee a potential problem of two people adding on at the same time--bridget96 posted fourteen hundredths of a second before me the other day! I guess, maybe, whose-ever post came out on the bottom could take the responsibility for doing the editing to make them all on one post again. What do you-all think?
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Love the idea, Jackie, but I'm afraid it will get unwieldy. Although there are supposedly about 2100 members of AWAD, someone estimated the other day that only about 70 or so post with any frequency. Even that many would create a difficulty, particularly with those coming on late, when a large and ever-growing piece has to be copied and pasted on. Besides that, I have had difficulty in copying and pasting onto the board, and have never succeeded in getting it to work, I don't know why, since I do it all the time with other stuff. (There is probably a simple explanation for that which hasn't occurred to me.)
Let me advance this suggestion -- all those who wish to do so (as many as possible) compose a brief message (say 25 words maximum to make it more interesting) and everyone post it on the 15th. Needless to say, we will all try our utmost for something clever, or outrageous, or both.
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AnnaS - what a great idea you have to celebrate AWAD's birthday.
About resurrecting a favorite thread...I am afraid that with the 35 or so regular posters this might be a tad cumbersome with too much threads popping up with a NEW tag.
How about if we combine your and Jackie's suggestions this way...create a HAPPY BIRTHDAY thread. Anyone who wants to, can post either, a Thank-you to Anu, the reason why they like being here, a link to a favorite thread, and a celebratory regional recipe (or all four if they wish).
That way all the wishes will be neatly under one thread.
To get Anu to see it is an other matter...maybe wow or Jackie, who HAVE had success getting his attention, can send him a note saying "YOU MUST LOOK IN AWAD CHAT INFORMATION AND ANNOUNCEMENTS ON MARCH 15TH"
We should get someone in NZ to start the Happy Birthday thread since they turn to the 15th before we do.
What do you think?
Oh and Jackie, tsk-tsk-tsk, outrageously flirting with Bill. I thought you had left us poor souls in the gutter.
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This is a great idea, AnnaS! I'l certainly go along with it - or whatever variation we agree on. Mind you, the chances of us actually agreeing on anything is remote - already the ideas are proliferating. But wot the hell, archie, toujours gaie, and all that. (my grey cat, darkness, has just asked me to type that last bit) Whatever we decide - or not - I'll join in. BTW, doesn't a year go by quickly when your doing something other than working?
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Count me in, too. I think the add on message is a good idea, but I don't think the random access plan will work. Unfortunately, the only counter suggestion I can come up with would probably bog down. That is to build a message through Send Private in some predetermined order. The organizer would have a list of participants that would be part of the message and each person would remove his or her name after adding and would send the new message on to someone else.
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fourteen hundredths of a second before me the other day!my dear jackie, rest assured that the considerable joy i got out of beating you to the punch was mitigated in short order... "Hooray, Avy, Sweet Musick, Rapunzel, and--I can't remember, but I know there's at least one other, and I'm sorry--for your recent "promotions"." see, ya got me back without even trying *hug*
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belM suggests: How about if we combine your and Jackie's suggestions this way...create a HAPPY BIRTHDAY thread. Anyone who wants to, can post either, a Thank-you to Anu, the reason why they like being here, a link to a favorite thread, and a celebratory regional recipe (or all four if they wish).
I like this idea a lot. I agree with some of you that an add-on message would be rather complicated.... and maybe too much of an effort.
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>How about if we combine your and Jackie's suggestions this way...create a
HAPPY BIRTHDAY thread. Anyone who wants to, can post either, a
thank-you to Anu, the reason why they like being here, a link to a favorite
thread, and a celebratory regional recipe (or all four if they wish).
I like this suggestion ..... too.
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A Happy Birthday THREAD! Wonderful! Brilliant! Kudos! Merci, even. Will the Max or Cap. Kiwi agree to begin it ('nother excellent idea! ), and then as each time zone comes on, we'll just add to it? I should like to claim the honor of notifying Anu of the thread, please. Bridget96--  ! Congratulations to you, my dear!
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I will happily contribute to a thread marking such an auspicious anniversary, but CapK tends to be up later than I and may well be posting here in the wee smalls of Thursday March 15, so the honour of starting will likely fall to him. This is also apt as his contribution will be of more skill and moment than mine could ever be.
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Count Jakarta (GMT+7) in for the Happy Birthday thread.
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>Happy Birthday thread
Count Edinburgh (GMT)in too! I'll try to remember to get up early!
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Max quoth I will happily contribute to a thread marking such an auspicious anniversary, but CapK tends to be up later than I and may well be posting here in the wee smalls of Thursday March 15, so the honour of starting will likely fall to him. This is also apt as his contribution will be of more skill and moment than mine could ever be.Two points: 1. Your last sentence is utter crap, even though this remark may look as if it proves your point! 2. You've been around a lot longer than me, and to you the honour should fall. Go for it - I may post second! 
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TOYOTA!! I was hoping that my effort at self-effacement would excuse me the arduous effort needed to come up with something worthy. You just won't let this lazy slob get away with it, will you CapK? If you don't hear much from me in the next 12 days, know that I'm trying to compose something more significant than "happy oneth"
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May I second the proposal that Max Quordlepleen is the fit and proper person to commence this Anniversary Madrigal? His constant flow of zany humour; his plethora of quotations, apt and inept, from such a bedazzling variety of sources ancient and modern; his partnership with a dyslexic keyboard; and the immense service he has done to us all by providing a repository for all of our memorabilia: for all of these and more, I believe he has shown himself to be admirably suited to the important and delicate task proposed. I would like to add that this proposal should in no manner be considered to detract from the value and enjoyment provided by Mr Quordlepleen's illustrious compatriot, from whose posts we all enjoy the Capital Fruit. Madam Chair, ladies and gentlemen, I submit this recomendation for your consideration. (Turns and salutes the large poster of Anu hanging at the back of the stage and returns to his seat in the body of the hall)
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May I second the proposal that Max Quordlepleen is the fit and proper person to commence this Anniversary Madrigal?
Yes you may. (oops, was that a rhetorical question??) And I'll third or fourth or whatever it takes to finish the debate in record time!
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his partnership with a dyslexic keyboard
Not so! It is simply that the dubious detritus under the keys has, under the influence of all that EMR, coalesced into primitive, but malevolent, lifeforms, lifeforms dedicated to making my typing seem slydexic. Stanley Miller would be proud.
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>his partnership with a dyslexic keyboard
At least Max has all his "w"s intact!
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Sorry all, you can second, third fourth ... nth all you like. Max it is. My unilateral decision, completely in keeping with the form of autocratic nanny government to which all kiwis and Kiwis have become used in the past 15 months! Max, you have the floor – and 12 days to polish the toyota before giving us the full benefit (sic) of your first inaugural birthday oration. I suggest that you get the toyota down pat!
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>Happy Birthday thread
>Count Edinburgh (GMT)in too! I'll try to remember to get up early!
I'll post from Bangalore (IST). Will I be the fourth one? After Oz, NZ, Indonesia, India ... then the Uk or maybe Israel?
Is that the way it will go?
It would have been good to have William then the thread would have started with the rising sun.
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I sure am glad Jo (aka jmh) has agreed to be Madam Chairman! I still shrink from the idea of too much structure in the Happy Birthday thread but will go with the majority. Now, let me get this straight. Does this mean I (GMT -5) have to post before Jackie does? (GMT-6) . And Jackie, of course you are the only one to inform Anu of this initiative. After all, according to some theorists out there, you are he. (turning, similarly saluting the poster of Garg on the back wall, and returning to my seat in the back row)
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>Jo (aka jmh) has agreed to be Madam Chairman!
No, I think we've gone for the usual anarchy instead.
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Small suggestions.
Could we put the date in the thread header name *and* for each individual post? i.e.
Happy Birthday AWAD, 15 March 2001
That way, should The Great Anu deign to print it out the correct date would be on each message. This would also make it easy when Anu gets next year's greetings, and next, and next and ...
Posters might also consider a "dateline" to start the body of the post to make it easier for viewers to see the sequence on posts. Like news stories start.
New Zealand -- Happy birthday etc.
Was there ever any question that Jackie is the one to draw The Wonderous One's attention to the thread?
Respectfully submitted
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At least Max has all his "w"s intact!I think it is more that he knows where his towel is!
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let's see... according to our old, worn-out quilt, the first anniversary should be celebrated with... PAPER
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Good evening, Shabbat Shalom, and now the results of the Israel jury... whoops, sorry... YES Israel will join in - but as is the norm for me, I will answer with a question: if we are all going to post according to where we fit +/- GMT, shouldn't we perhaps have a particular time (in our own zone) at which we will do the duty? I'm at GMT+2... in other words, should I post at dawn, 7am... or when exactly would everyone propose, in order to make it truly an around the world (in order.... ) thread??? Shoshannah
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when exactly would everyone propose, in order to make it truly an around the world (in order.... ) thread???I should think that the times that people can get to the site would be sufficiently irregular that any attempt to have some time zone standard would be doomed to failure. Just wait until calendar March 15 in your time zone.
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To repeat myself : this is where and why the "dateline" to start each story would be handy ....
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Tsuwm, as "the computer" attempts (albeit unsuccessfully) to eliminate paper (HA) you'll eventually (HA) have to get the "quilt-out" out and edit your quilt. They may replace cursive, but never a hand written "thank-you" note... I guess hand typed will do.[SIGH] My computer and I are starting the celebration early by going out for a few pints tonight, anyone interested .
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My computer and I are starting the celebration early by going out for a few pints tonight, anyone interested?
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Sounds like a plan. Know a decent piano bar where we could sing along while wetting our whistles?
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I think the idea of a thread to send to Anu is great. Here are a couple thoughts of mine.
Each persons post should exemplify their personality over the past year.
Perhaps everyone should try to post at the same time in their respective time zones so they all come in about an hour apart. Most of you seem to be at work when you post, so would some time around 9:00 be good for everyone? (9:00 to 10:30 is pretty much the only time I have access to a computer at school.)
I think the header for each post after the first should be the city from which you are posting. (ie. Wellington, New Zealand" ; "Cincinnati, Ohio, USA") Also, each person should probably reply to the initial post so they're all in a straight line in threaded view.
And finally, I think everyone should conclude their post with their board name, real name, and date and time of joining.
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JazzO ... Yes, that's the idea. The date in header and a location and a dash before the message allowing The Great Anu to cut and paste as he wishes without loosing track of the year and place. That is : Happy Birthday AWAD 15 March 2001New Zealand- This Kiwi etc. etc. etc. or Israel - From this ancient land etc. etc. etc. Each persons post should exemplify their personality over the past year. People have been misrepresenting themselves?  Wouldn't everyone's posting at same time give the Machine a migraine? Especially if people who never or rarely post take the opportunity to express congratulations? wow
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Wouldn't everyone's posting at same time give the Machine a migraine?
I mean 9:00 (or whatever time) for each time zone. That would mean that every time zone posts about an hour appart.
And by explifying one's personality I mean don't use some run-of-the-mill "Happy Birthday". Customize it to you personality in your other posts. (But I guess everyone would do that anyway.)
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Ahhh, got it. Will do my best to hit the mark.
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I agree with Faldage. We can't impose too much structure here. We catch as catch can, and - perish the thought - there might be a contributor or two who will be unable to post at all on the Ides. I will probably be at work at 9 am in my particular time zone on the momentous day. And the time stamps are already on the posts, anyway (albeit in U.S. Central Time). So yeah, dateline (city) is cool, but our board names will also come up automatically, as the time stamps do, and those of us who wish to have our real names known show them in our profiles.
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And the time stamps are already on the posts, anyway (albeit in U.S. Central Time).Oh, AnnaS, all the times show up as Eastern Standard on my computer! I think the Machine compensates for times. ???? --------------------------------------------------- dateline (city) is cool, but our board names will also come up automatically, as the time stamps do, and those of us who wish to have our real names known show them in our profiles.Absolutely! And The Great Anu knows all our real identities anyway. wow
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Yep- I agree with Jazz's plan as modified by AnnaS - It is a good idea to have a plan - else how can you change your plan? But it is also good to have it really simple so that anyone who doesn't or cannot follow it to the letter won't feel bad about being different. So - 9 am in your own time if possible, (but later is much better than never) - write as you would in any other post (as we assuredly would anyway!) - add your real name if you feel like it, but this ain't mandatory. Yeahhhh! let's go for it!
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Every year at this time I stop and remember my father, one of the great racounteurs (and wits) of all time, at least so far as I am concerned. He was the one who named me Theophilus because I was the awfulest looking baby he ever saw.
Every year on the ides of March he would call me up and say, "eschew Communism." To which I would reply, "gesundheit."
Now, pray tell, why would the old feller say this to me?
He would have been 99 on the 28th ;>)
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Please! Don't squeeze the chairman!
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Every year on the ides of March he would call me up and say, "eschew Communism." To which I would reply, "gesundheit."
Now, pray tell, why would the old feller say this to me?
You just didn't catch the whole question :
"Have you been or es chew a Communist?"
(*running* for cover)
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Every year on the ides of March he would call me up and say, "eschew Communism." To which I would reply, "gesundheit."
Why your pater should have chosen the ides of March for his annual warning (if warning it were, indeed!) is not immediatewly apparent. But, given his age, he would have remebered that the Russian Revolution took place in March 1917. The first session of the Moscow soldiers Soviet (the word is Russian for "committee") took place on March 1st and the Czar abdicated in favour of Grand Duke Mikhail on March 2nd. (Grand Duke Mikhail adbicated on March 3rd. Wise man!)
So far as I know, nothing of great importance happened on 13th March, although the 14th was the Address of the Soviet "to the people of the whole world" declaring for peace.
Vladimir Illyich Ulanov (Lenin) didn't arrive until April 3rd, and the Bolshevik Revolution didn't happen until October (or November - depends which calendar you're using!)
Incidently, I once saw a hilarious cartoon of a member of the German High Command bringing Lenin a trained seal.
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>Why your pater should have chosen the ides of March for his annual warning (if warning it were, indeed!) is not immediatewly apparent.
I wondered if anyone would get it. His entire warning was: "Eschew Communism. Beware the ideas of Marx."
He was known as one who would grasp any opportunity to make a pun. What follows is one of which he was quite proud:
My friend Sam has lived in many places, at many times. Once he lived in classical Rome, where he kept a journal that proved just how odd the Romans were. According to this journal, all things reproductive were cherished, but most especially a certain elderberry, which was reputed to be the dwelling place of the gods. It was illegal, on pain of death, to pick or eat an elderberry, and all of the plants were the property of the republic.
Sam was on one of his jaunts when he saw a really pretty elderberry bush, and it suddenly dawned on him he could make a great deal of money if he transplanted the bush to a place where it could serve as a focal point of a religion. Within a year or so he was fabulously wealthy. But he feared the religious police so he retired from the priesthood, married, and gave the plant to his wife as a wedding present.
Weeks later there came a knock at the door, where Sam was soon held at spearpoint by the phalanx of Roman soldiers who waited without. Blustering, Sam said, "Have you come to worship my wife's elderberry plant?"
"No," replied the centurion, "we are here to seize her berry, not to praise it."
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I wondered if anyone would get it. His entire warning was: "Eschew Communism. Beware the ideas of Marx."Which goes to prove I am utterly hopeles at making puns. My inability to decipher has also been proved. wow
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"Beware the ideas of Marx.", says TEd. And he is quite right, of course (well - certainly to the right of Marx) as the following anecdote will demonstrate.
Marx's friend, Freidrich Engels, was left a house in his uncle's will. He and Marx went to inspect and explore his new property.
On reaching the attics, Engels peered into the water tanks, gave a startled exclamation, put his arm into the water and withdrew two ancient fiddles. "Great Scott, Marx," he exclaimed, "Do you think they might be valuable?"
"No," replied his friend, "They are merely the violins inherited in the cistern."
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I would never dream of saying anything like this about any other thread, but would it be perhaps advisable for all of us to try and only post once on the birthday thread? I get the feeling that there might be numerous members posting to celebrate, and if many of these comments are met with the usual clever back-and-forth accompaniment, we might easily find ourselves with an unwieldy thread in our hands. My computer, for one, absolutely dislikes long threads, and lets me know every time  . Any thoughts on this? [lemme-know-if-I'm-overstepping-the-mark emoticon]
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AMEN Marianna!
I think it's possible; you'll note Jo (jmh) has managed to keep her Helpful Hints uncluttered by the back-and-forth to which you refer. Maybe we need a "Happy Birthday" thread and, alongside it, a "Post Your Witty Rejoinders Here" thread.
Anyone disagree?
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Maybe we need a "Happy Birthday" thread and, alongside it, a "Post Your Witty Rejoinders Here" thread.
But aren't parties supposed to be about conversation?
Perhaps, if you are thinking of some kind of tribute to AWAD, with sententious port-soaked, gout-ridden blokes rising up and asking others to be 'upstanding' (a word I loath, abhor, disdain, hate etc in this use) whilst they pour forth orotund, rodomontade oratory, then certainly a "Tribute to AWAD on its Anniversary" thread with single postings per person would be wonderful (else imagine the horror of a succession of after-dinner speakers with the added 'thrill' of heckling!), but I'd suggest a 'Birthday party' thread as well so that we can indulge in our well-worn drunken chat-up lines, criticise the canapes (and our host's taste in curtains and carpets), and look around for unoccupied bedrooms or jacuzzis...
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ps. Yes, I'm back for a bit. Missed you...
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Welcome back, shanks! I like your further refinement of our ideas. I vote for a gout-ridden blokes thread (which we've pretty much agreed on in your absence) and a second one for booze-bloated celebrants. Jo, are you taking notes here?? P.S. I've got dibs on the room with the waterbed
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shanks!! by all that's wonderful!! Welcome back, dear soul - you have been greatly missed. Yes, a concurrent birthday party is a great idea - I never refuse an invitation (even if I slightly prefer Birnmigham to Southall!) We can all slip out, one by one, to the broadcasting room, where we can make our formal speeches, then use the opportunity to find out where the empty rooms and the jacuzzi are to be found. Just make sure there is a stool in the broadcast room for my gouty leg!
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This booze-bloated celebrant is prepared to stand up (or slump limply, rather) and be counted. Maybe I can beat Jo to being the first GMT-er to publish on the gout-ridden wonderthread. As for the waterbed - you can keep it, my friend - I have my eye on that little heated pool by the garden... cheer the sunshine warrior
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P.S. I've got dibs on the room with the waterbed
Is there room for two? I promise to take my spurs off!`
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Happy to be the Designated Driver except for one glass of celebratory champagne. Will bring some canapes. Will others?
Would be great to taste the contributions from our Board members around the world. NOT starting a food chain, please, please, Please put those in Off Word Topics in Miscellany thread.
Oh, save me a place in the heated pool.
{off to find the bathing suit while blizzard rages outside!}
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He was known as one who would grasp any opportunity to make a pun.
The nut does not fall far from the tree. There's nothing like acorny pun. [ducking for cover from the deserved shell-acking acomin']
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"P.S. I've got dibs on the room with the waterbed"
I call the room with the TV; the NCAA tournament will be on!
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P.S. I've got dibs on the room with the waterbed
Dear AnnaStrophic: Since dibs means share, who is the lucky
other shareholder? (Mischievously intended to suggest a romance.) And remember to take you motion sickness preventive with you.
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(Mischievously intended to suggest a romance.)
Oh! Bill, how could you do this to me?? I thought we were engaged! [sobbing my eyes out emoticon]
Shove over, shanks and wow. Looks like I'll be bringing a huge bottle of Kentucky's finest, since I'll be needin' to drown my sorrows...could probably rustle up some sweet treats, too.
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Count me in for the jacuzi. Wow, you mean we have to wear a bathing suit??? Don't you worry Jackie, I'll bring along the Belgian chocolate. A nice chocolate fondue with fresh fruit while sipping a margarita. Mmmmmm. They say eating chocolate stimulates the same area of the brain as having an O . So you won't miss Bill too much
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Wow, you mean we have to wear a bathing suit???
Dear AnnaS, At 73 it is advisable not to frighten the children.
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Um, um hellooo, it's me wow, belM.
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belM, well, when I'm wow's age, I shall wear purple too. If I live that long.
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Avy walks past with a placard showing,
"9 MORE DAYS TO BEETHOVEN'S BIRTHDAY"
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Thanks, but no thanks, AnnaS! That would be too much! After suffering spasmodically for some 20 years, I seem now to be relatively free of the "tendency to gout", as it is wittily called. Are you one of the brotherhood too, Rhu?
But I can recommend waterbeds -- had one for many years -- great in the Tasmanian winters.
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No, I've managed to steer clear of gout, I'm happy to say. I heard, when I was young, that it was caused by drinking too much port, so I only drink the finest port available, and therefore can't afford to drink enough to get gout.
However, I encourage my female companions to imbibe the drink, on the old sailor's principle of "a port in every girl."
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[eyeing-water-bed-possessively-as-she-decides-on-offers emoticon] What exactly is gout, anyway? I thought it was one of those old-fashioned diseases.... And Jo, get yo' good se'f in here and straighten all this out, please, as only y'all're capable of doin', darlin' Thankee kandly.
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>And Jo, get yo' good se'f in here and straighten all this out, please ...
I think it is OK, AnnaS. I'd never make it into the police. I get the impression that this is all going a bit wonky so people can use up all their dissident tendancies and save all their good behaviour for THE BIG DAY.
By the way, is everyone quite convinced that Anu never reads any of this stuff? It's a bit like planning a surprise party. I think we need a code-name, so he won't be able to find us by searching on "Anu" or "party". How about "water bed" as the code word, he'll never work that one out ... unless he reads this post ... mutter, mutter
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What exactly is gout, anyway?
There is a substance called purine, which we get in our bloodstreams from foodstuffs such as red wine, pork, offal, and shellfish. Most people excrete it reasonably effectively in their urine. Unfortunately some of us don't do this so well for genetic reasons and the purine forms crystals which lodge around joints, most commonly those in the big toe but the ankles are another trouble spot. This is gout. The best preventives are to avoid purine rich foods and to drink lots of water. There is also medicine you can take to increase purine excretion during an attack. A bad toothache, I assure you, is absolutely nothing in comparison.
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"wine, pork, offal, and shellfish"
Dear Bingley: I don't know what
"offal" means to you, but it means something awful to me.
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isn't offal the stuff that goes into gravy? the gizzards or whatever that word is?
atomica calls it the "waste parts from a slaughtered animal". i suppose, then, it might include tripe?
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The dictionary mentions intestines, and scraps.They used to use intestines to make sausages, and that was a dandy way of getting botulism.(look that one up.) Much of the rest used to go into hotdogs. No thanks. So offal to me is hardly more appetizing than the "off-fall" so often washed away by the retromingent bovines.
A nicer word for gravy makings is giblets: heart, gizzard, and neck.
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There are times when it is good to keep and eat kosher - and this is certainly one of those times! Shoshannah
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Dear Shoshannah: I used to go to take violin lessons with a couple very nice Jewish boys. I wish I had been able to match the talent of the younger one, who became a member of a major symphony orchestra.
One day on the way home, they stopped at a delicatessen, and came out with a package with some large black characters on it that I had never seen before. I asked what that meant. The older boy answered that it meant the meat was kosher. I asked what Kosher meant, and the older boy replied that it meant it was meat the rabbi had pissed on.
I understood that he was joking, but have never repeated it until now. I didn't want to get a ruptured eardrum.(private portion to Shoshannah.)
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The term offal is used a lot in the UK. Mr Bingley isn't jsut talking about the bits inside a chicken, used for gravy. It refers to anything beyond the main meat of the animal such as liver, kidney, heart, the bits that become tripe (yuk), sweetbreads, etc. We need bel for this, the French love their offal.
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Ohhh~hhh, so does this mean i should change my plan of offering Fois Gras and Sauternes at the upcoming birthday party?? Sorry, my dear Rapunzel, but i simply *adore* the stuff...
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For offal, my dictionary gives as second meaning, "refuse, garbage". Glad to hear UK version is more palatable. I have never before heard it used to mean anything fit to eat.I can guarantee you will never see any supermarkets here advertisiing offal for sale.
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(kicking Jo under the table) .... and about that haggis?
bridget96, careful, all we like foie gras (ask Faldage), 'long as it isn't from sheep*
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"Faldage... care to explain??"
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My father used to be fond of pickled cow stomach, the part that looks like over sized honeycomb, called tripe. I would eat it, rather than offend him, but I have never bought any.
Haggis I have been told is a variety of bits of heart, lung,liver, kidneys etc with oatmeal and other vegetables and seasonings cooked in a sheep stomach. I have never had any, and would not much care to partake of it, but the Yankee in me approves of not wasting any food. "Wilful waste brings woeful want."
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I have read of several British recipes using kidney. Even my vaunted Yankee reluctance to waste food rebels at kidney.
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At a Burns Day dinner a portion of haggis was portioned out and since I had never had it before and will try most things once, I ate some, taking my cue from more experienced eaters -- I ate just the inside, the meat, spices etc ...Delicious!
Then about 30 minutes later I started to itch and small welts appeared ... I am allergic to liver and didn't realize there was any in the haggis! Minor outbreak that an antihistamine tablet and lots of water took care of.
But no haggis for me anymore which I do not regret as I am not a fan of internal organ meats.
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ooof, I also, have only heard the word offal to describe animal waste.
Most Québecois I know are not overly fond of eating beastly internal organs like tripe, kidney or heart. I do have several French (from France) friends who do love these. A lot of people do like liver though.
There is also on concoction that the older generation used to eat a lot of. It is call boudin (boo-dane). It is spiced congealed beef blood in a piece of tripe (like a sausage). It smells absolutely awful while cooking. I am usually game on tasting anything but I just can`t make myself try it. The only thing that comes to mind is a scab and (sorry, I can`t continue, yuck, yuck, yuck).
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Offals
Of course, the Pennsylvania Dutchman has to note that one of the famous dishes using offals is scrapple, which is basically cornmeal mush with the addition of the offals from slaughtering a hog. While there are those, including many non-Dutchmen, who love it, I can't stand the stuff. It comes in large bricks, which you slice and fry. When you're frying it, it smells like the town garbage dump is on fire.
Now on the other hand, tripe is really something else. There is a dish native to Philadelphia called Pepper Pot. It's a soup and includes small pieces of tripe. One of my favorites.
And then there is Tripes a la mode de Caen -- my mouth is watering just thinking about that.
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Black pudding (blood pudding) rules ok.
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O.k., I'm back now. think happy thoughts, think happy thoughts I have tried menudo which is a mix of inwardly stuff and I thought it was quite good.
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i hadn't realized menudo was made out of tripe...thanks for ruining it for me anyone like Korean food? there's a soup called shul-lung thang that pretty much includes the entire cow, sans the skin and bones. there's another Korean dish that is made mostly out of tripe (i can't recall the name) but at least in that case it's still 'whole' so you know what it is you're getting into as you browse the buffet. i've never been able to get past the appearance, though i've heard it's delicious. oh dear, i'm beginning to feel a bit ill...
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Oh, my. How interesting that "offal" is edible across the pond. I'm thinking happy thoughts about sun-ripened tomatoes, and corn on the cob that you pick, clean on the way back from the garden, and boil as soon as you get inside.
And speaking of "corn," I know that the term once was a generic term for "grain" (I haven't tried to explain that to my three-year-old yet, although we have a book which talks about bunnies hiding in the corn but pictures them in a wheat field; very confusing for him) and I wonder whether it is still used that way outside of the US. If so, what is the term used to describe maize? Maize, I suppose. [puzzled emoticon]
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Then perhaps the way to do it is through the discussion of words. US/UK differences I've noticed:
Cookie/Biscuit
Cookie/Cookie
Biscuit/Bun
Bacon/Pork Scratchings (joking - but it seems that way)
Canadian Bacon/Bacon
Butter/Unsalted butter
Cheese/Goo
What?/Cheese
Sandwich/"What do you mean no butter?"
Pop/Soft drink
Soda/Soft drink
Club soda/Soda
Rum/White Rum
Poison/Salt
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maize = sweetcorn
In deference to certain members' sensibilities I shall not even begin to describe what goes into sop buntut .
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Shanks wrote Bacon/Pork Scratchings (joking - but it seems that way)
When in Ireland I was served Irish bacon which was like a fatty ham, more ham than fat. In US what we call bacon is called "streaky bacon" in Ireland and is cheaper than Irish bacon.
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In US what we call bacon is called "streaky bacon" in Ireland and is cheaper than Irish bacon.
Zigackly. And Ferpick!
Not just streaky, but crispy too. Crispy bacon is the way we would describe US bacon (pork scratchings was an exaggeration).
Best bacon description I've ever read - James Herriott (I misremember the book) speaking of sharing a pan that was virtually all blubber, with a farmer, after a difficult night for the vet.
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James Herriott (I misremember the book) speaking of sharing a pan that was virtually all blubber, with a farmer, after a difficult night for the vet.
Oh, yes ... and when I saw the TV version the look on the Vet's face was hilarious ... the thought of that pan of greasy fat made me gag! I'll take my bacon crisp, thank you very much. Anyone for bacon n' eggs?
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In deference to certain members' sensibilities I shall not even begin to describe what goes into sop buntut .
what in the world is an oxtail?? i tried to googlize it and got only recipes, and atomica merely calls it 'the tail of an ox'. Tail, to me, means the hind quarters. Surely it can't be the tail itself!?!? [ewww]
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I leave this place for a couple of days and it turns into a free-for-all organ recital. Thanks for the veg interlude, Sparteye. bridget, yeah, it's just that. A tail. Heathens put it in soup and such. [ ewww, indeed!]
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Please, please, please ... what is vindaloo?
Watching "Red Dwarf' a character keeps talking about curry vindaloo.
HELP .. it's driving me nuts.
Nutttier ... er...um....well...
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This is geting rather long ... could you start another thread ... maybe Birthday, Thread Two ... that is, after someone explains vindaloo ???
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maize = sweetcorn
Not here in NZ. For us, maize is the type of corn used to make cornflour, corn chips, etc. No one that I know would ever dream of eating "maize on the cob." A friend of mine who died recently was largely responsible for developing and introducing several varieties of what were intially called "supersweet" corn to NZ, and he never called them maize either. One of them, honey and pearl, is actually too sweet for my taste.
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OK, all ...
Switch this to "Party on the FOURteenth" thread started by Jackie in this category ... by suggestion of Jackie and AnnaS,
Just passin' the news along.
Old reporter can't resist a "scoop."
wow
Oh, somebody please send via private answer to vindaloo ? Please?
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Dear Max: Nobody here calls corn "maize", except when talking to Brits to whom corn means any cereal grain, apparently.
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Hi Wow Vindaloo is actually two things. 1. vin daa loo Spicy, fatty pork dish from Goa, incorporating the glorious Southern Indian coconut and spices tradition with the Protuguese pork culture and coming up with a sublimely delicious (f your palate and liver can take it) dish, that goes hand in hand with other Goan classic like sorpotel ( shorrpo-thell) {almost exclusively diced cubes of pork fat cooked in a deep red 'sauce' of melted fat!!) and Goa(n) sausage - not like any other suasage I've seen, been a set of approximately one inch in diameter 'beads' of meat and spices wrapped in dried crackly 'skin' all held together by string (and you throw away the skin and string when you cook it). Recommended that these dishes be eaten with rice, a glass of cashew feni on the side (remember that every bodily juice will stink of this liquor for the next week)*, and followed up by the heavy, multi-layered unleavened cake called Bebinca (usually pronounced bay-bee(n)k). 2. vin duh-loo Dish native to the UK, based upon the famous indigenous 'curry' cuisine which uses Indian names and a well-graded system of 'spiciness' to rank curries from mild through medium to hot. Vindaloo, along with Madras, is one of the hottest curries available on the standard curry scale. The curry industry is run primarily by immigrants from Bangladesh, and appears to consist of the creation of: a. Sauce number 1 - orange, thick, mild, made primarily of tomatoes b. Meat selection - diced lamb, chicken (pork for something exotic) c. Style selection - chooped onions for 'dupiaza' dishes, melted butter for 'makhni' etc. And a 'quickspice' attachment, no doubt, to bring the dish up to strength on the scale. Vindaloo is by way of being the national dish of Britain. Forget all you're heard of rosbif, or fish'n'chips in newspepr, recent surveys have shown that curry is without question the most popular cuisine in terms of restaurant numbers and restaurant visits/take-out orders, with vindaloo being the most popular curry strength. Now let's see the French say that English cooking has no flavour - we've got more than 7 distinct strengths of curry. So there! cheer the sunshine warrior *Actually, though fenni is the native Goan liquor, it is foul. I recommend, rather, a cold bottled beer (nice, big 650 ml bottles in India), and if you're in a beach shack, do not feel ashamed to ask them to put ice in your beer. It'll hardly dilute the strength, since you'll be drinking it so quickly, but it will help keep it cool.
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Vindaloo
Many thanks, Shanks, for the straight dope on real Vindaloo. In this part of the world, Indian cuisine was virtually unknown 20 years ago but is now beoming quite popular, along with Thai cuisine. Vindaloo is always "lamb vindaloo". As prepared at our local Indian restaurants, it's chunks of lean lamb in a brown sauce, very hot with a complex blend of spices.
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Shanks, dear heart!
Thank you for clearing up The Great Vindaloo Mystery for me! It all makes sense now.
Serendipitously I have learned never to order it ...
In my youth I could eat nails and spit battleships but, alas, those days are gone.
Age Hath It's Privileges (AHIP) but spicey food is not one of them.
Thanks again
wow
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Everybody now go over to the thread
"Party on the FOURteenth"
started by Jackie and now resting at 10th place in the Info/Announce category .... requested by Jackie and others..
because this thread is waaaaay toooo long.Respectfully submitted wow
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