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He doesn't see your posts Luke but point taken. okay, as I've been clued in by Olly (thanx), I see what happened now, and I'd sum it up by saying I didn't see Luke's link (which defined phobia, as did I, although I explained why I did). I really can't see the "point taken", I guess, since I also defined cibophobia with my link, so it's not like I totally mantled him, even though I'd not seen his post. I'd also posit that the chances of my actually mantling Luke are slim, at best. 
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Cibophobia
is a phobia of?
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ONIONS, a fear of onions, cibus, cipolla, cebolla, in O.H.G.
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it's a phobia of food in general  well done to you translatey people  another one if you want: Omphalophobia
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Just guessing here, from my Latin days: Omphales, Omphalos or
something of the kind was an ancient queen, of Lydia or some
such place. She had a god (Hercules????)serve her while wearing
a dress. So Fear, aversion to cross-dressing?????
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sure, like in omphaloskepsis
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Sure, I was just remembering the laugh our class got out of the story of that queen. But that was many decades ago. And it is a phobia: so not contemplating one's navel, but an aversion of some sort. Many people today pierce their navel, no aversion there, rather attraction.
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I can't see how being omphalophobia would be a problem
....unless they had a lint problem they had to attend to on a regular basis.
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 excepting the last, these are 'real'.
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(...mixing his languages maybe)
"PHOBOPHOBIA - res ipse loquitur" -- "The only thing we have to fear is Fear itself ." In a manner of speaking...
(Does that sound like the germ of a double-dactyl to anyone else?
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I can't see how being omphalophobia would be a problem
again, it's probly meant as aversion to, rather than fear of, in this instance.
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excepting the last, these are 'real'. Love that cartoon....but I could never catch ' porphyrohobia' purple is my favourite colour.
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So lots of phobias can be replaced by dislike of.
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I think the preceding word would have to be....irrational, though Bran.
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are you say Irrational Fear or Irrational Aversion?
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I think the preceding word would have to be....irrational, though Bran. I will agree with you if you tell me what a rational dislike is. Can likes and dislikes be rational?
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I think so....when you have reason for the aversion.
Like a man who was trapped when a building collapsed...now fears things covering his face!
But now I'm not sure....cause it still might be called 'a phobia'
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A linguistics professor was lecturing his class the other day. "In English," he said, "a double negative forms a positive. However, in some languages, such as Russian, a double negative remains a negative. But there isn't a single language, not one, in which a double positive can express a negative."
A voice from the back of the room retorted, "Yeah, right."
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Sometimes its like this for me...... 
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Count your blessings - for some of us, it's ALWAYS like this! 
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I just finished the book Still Alice, about a Harvard professor who has early-onset Alzheimer's (age 50). It's quite terrifying; if I didn't love the friend who encouraged me to look it over, I'd throw it at her. I don't read books like this!
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Alzheimers is scary, Jackie.....hopefully all we'll get will be common, everyday forgetfulness 
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Without any scientific basis for it, I'd like to think that for many of us it's normal to forget a certain percentage, and that the quantity may increase but the percentage may be steady. I don't like the condescending assumption that I forgot something because I'm old: I've always forgotten stuff I should remember, and I've always been good at remembering stuff nobody else does. The latter just may not always be the most practical.
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You are correct Peter...our brain must make room for more information...so it just moves 'stuff' to a place where we forget it. Nothing to do with age.
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I agree. I have read (I can't remember where and am too lazy to LIU!) that we never forget, but that, if we do not access stuff we have remembered, we can't find where it is filed in our brain-storage discs when we want it some tomme later..
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A Forgettable Theory
from dan.lewis@gmail.com: "Now I Know:That's half the Battle".
Most of us have had this happen: You have a list of tasks to do and walk around your home or office, intent on accomplishing them. The first one is easy -- empty a garbage can or grab a document. You do it and quickly move onto the next, but when you exit the room, you can't manage to recall what the other tasks were. Try as you might, you mind draws a blank.
But don't blame it on getting older or lack of essential vitamins and nutrients in your diet. There's a much more likely culprit: the doorway you just walked through.
In November of 2011, a team of researchers at the University of Notre Dame in South Bend, Indiana, published a study which suggested that entering and exiting rooms can cause our short term memories to fail us. Their theory: our brains take items in our short term memories and stick them into virtual compartments, with different ideas in different areas -- much like a house or office has different rooms. When we cross through doorways in the physical world, our mental world also passes through what psychology professor and head researcher Gabriel Radvansky calls an "event boundary" -- an action which, in his words, "separates episodes of activity and files them away." Basically, when your body leaves the room, your mind leaves that "to do" list behind.
Unfortunately, one simply can't return to the room to pick up this virtual "to do" list. In one of the experiments Radvansky and his team conducted, his test subjects were asked to walk around from room to room only to end up where they began.
The full study, published in the Quarterly Journal of Experimental Psychology, is available.
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Wow! That sounds very similar to Somebody's theory (I'll have to find shanks and ask him again) that it is good for the elderly to stay in familiar surroundings because seeing certain things will remind them of tasks they need to get done, such as eating.
I, though, have a different experience from what the Notre Dame people describe: if I physically go or turn back to the area where my previous thought of doing something told me was associated with it, I remember what I'd forgotten. It's not always in a different room, though; but sometimes it is.
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Thats exactly what I do, Jackie and it works instantly every time!
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So you think of something that needs doing in the kitchen, but you're in the living room. So you go into the kitchen to do it and forget what it was. You go back to the living room and remember, then go back to the kitchen and forget all over? Is that how it works?
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More like, say I have finished washing the dishes and realize there was something specific I had planned to do. And I remember that it involved the knife drawer. I look at (not in) the drawer and remember that my plan was to get the scissors out of there so I could then go wrap the birthday gift. I may or may not have walked into another room after finishing the dishes.
And then there are the times such as when we had a refrigerator downstairs in the laundry room. I started downstairs with the thought that I'd put the clothes in the dryer then get a loaf of bread out of the freezer and bring it back upstairs to start thawing. Yep--back upstairs, bread still downstairs in the freezer--which was an arm's length from the dryer.
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Total recall, the ability of someone to remember every word they read or hear, has often been lauded as tantamount to a high level of intelligence. The opposite is more often the case. Those with total recall often have difficulty making decisions, and more readily miss understanding the overall point of a book or lecture - because they get enmeshed in an undistinguishable mass of irrelevant details. Forgetting, it turns out, has enormous value for concise understanding and for emotional health:
"Solomon Shereshevsky could recite entire speeches, word for word, after hearing them once. In minutes, he memorized complex math formulas, passages in foreign languages and tables consisting of 50 numbers or nonsense syllables. The traces of these sequences were so durably etched in his brain that he could reproduce them years later, according to Russian psychologist Alexander R. Luria, who wrote about the man he called, simply, 'S' in The Mind of a Mnemonist.
"But the weight of all the memories, piled up and overlapping in his brain, created crippling confusion. S could not fathom the meaning of a story, because the words got in the way. 'No,' [S] would say. 'This is too much. Each word calls up images; they collide with one another, and the result is chaos. I can't make anything out of this.' When S was asked to make decisions, as chair of a union group, he could not parse the situation as a whole, tripped up as he was on irrelevant details. He made a living performing feats of recollection.
"Yet he desperately wanted to forget. In one futile attempt, he wrote down items he wanted purged from his mind and burned the paper. Although S's efforts to rein in his memory were unusually vigilant, we all need - and often struggle - to forget. "Human memory is pretty good," says cognitive neuro-scientist Benjamin J. Levy of Stanford Univer- sity. "The problem with our memories is not that nothing comes to mind-but that irrelevant stuff comes to mind."
"The act of forgetting crafts and hones data in the brain as if carving a statue from a block of marble. It enables us to make sense of the world by clearing a path to the thoughts that are truly valuable. It also aids emotional recovery. 'You want to forget embarrassing things,' says cognitive neuroscientist Zara Bergstrom of the University of Cambridge. 'Or if you argue with your partner, you want to move on.' In recent years researchers have amassed evidence for our ability to willfully forget. They have sketched out a neural circuit underlying this skill analogous to the one that inhibits impulsive actions.
"The emerging data provide the first scientific support for Sigmund Freud's controversial theory of repression, by which unwanted memories are shoved into the subconscious. The new evidence suggests that the ability to repress is quite useful. Those who cannot do this well tend to let thoughts stick in their mind. They ruminate, which can pave a path to depression. Weak restraints on memory may similarly impede the emotional recovery of trauma victims. Lacking brakes on mental intrusions, individuals with attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) are also more likely to be among the forgetless (to coin a term). In short, memory - and forgetting - can shape your personality."
Author: Ingrid Wickelgren
Title: "Trying to Forget"
Publisher: Scientific American Mind
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...the ability to repress is quite useful. Those who cannot do this well tend to let thoughts stick in their mind. They ruminate, which can pave a path to depression. And/or OCD. I knew someone with this; it took the form of obsession far more than compulsion. Attention really does affect how well you remember something--or don't. I confess that I tend not to remember things if I think I'm not going to need that information again. I had a really high GPA in college because most of the tests consisted of having to spit back out a ton of force-fed facts; but within a few weeks I'd forget most of them. I have tried to do better with peoples' names lately. Used to be, if I met someone more or less in passing--"Jackie, this is my cousin Cecelia Jones; she's visiting from Arizona"--I wouldn't remember the name by the time I left the party. 
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But maybe we should! Txt lang has been cre8d for a reason and is becoming a dynamic entity. I xpct it soon to Bcome a literary medium.
(BTW, I - along with many others - was using B4 as an abrev. way back in 1959!)
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Rhuby since you are so versatile perhaps you could
translate the chalkboard comment for me. I don't speak
text.
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Laugh Out Loud
Oh My God
Mind Your Own Business
Because
Too Much Information
With Respect To
Before
By The Way
For What It's Worth
I Am Not A Lawyer
Just Kidding
Later
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thanks, I guess. Think I'll stick to English, not
textspeak, but I appreciate your response.
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And to bring you even further up to date, it ain't a chalkboard he's using (I've not seen one of those in the past ten years - worse luck!) it's a 'whiteboard', which is a plastic-ish surface that will take dry marker pens, the markings of which rub off the board with a duster. Much the same as a chalk board, really, except they cost twice as much, the markers cost five times more than chalk*, and last for one tenth of the time. This is PROGRESS! Stand in it'sway at your peril.
(Also, you throw a marker pen at a recalcitrant student - and you find you're before the beak on an assault charge!)
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edit* By which I mean, 1 marker pen costs five times as much as A PACKET of chalk and lasts one tenth of the time of ONE PIECE of chalk!
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