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here's one: underlooking
"Lucas, Lester, and an anonymous FBI tech sat in Haward's office underlooking the Minneapolis skyline." - John Sandford, Mind Prey (1996)
underlook - v 1. trans. To look at, or inspect, from beneath. 2. To miss seeing by looking too low [OED]
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Princess Di used this way of looking to her advantage.
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To underlook or to overlook. Both ways you gonna miss something.
btw. what does derused mean?
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it's much like derlooked, only moreso.
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here's another great, but underused word:
dephlogisticate - to remove or deprive of phlogiston
"He led the escape from the old novel of external incident — the true Victorian novel — the dephlogisticated piffle of the department stores." - H. L. Mencken
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> dephlogisticate
oh, that's good! what fun to say!
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what does derused mean? HA! That was a good one, Branny! (Confess it took the second reading through both posts for me to get it!)
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here's another great, but underused word:
dephlogisticate - to remove or deprive of phlogiston
"He led the escape from the old novel of external incident — the true Victorian novel — the dephlogisticated piffle of the department stores. - H. L. Mencken Gee. I wonder why it's so little used. Actually, I would think that if it were used at all these days it would be overused.
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au contraire, mon ami. if used in a figurative (transferred?) sense, or in a historical novel as here:
"I write what he dictates, but I am not happy with the idea of phlogiston. I think that the results of our experiment support Stahl's theory* to an extent but don't prove it. I wish we could catch the air insde the glass and do more experiments to see how it really differs in quality from what Stahl would call the dephlogisticated air around us, but I say nothing of this to my father." - Katharine McMahon, The Alchemist's Daughter (2006)
*Georg Ernst Stahl, German chemist chiefly remembered for the obsolete phlogiston theory.
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dephlogisticate isn't yet defined in the Urban dictionary, maybe we should come up with something and submit it!
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I'm having some trouble imagining a good metaphorical use for dephlogisticate. Maybe to pretend to remove some nonexistent something from something else.
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"I will deflogisticate you! Anathema!" - The New Monthly Magazine and Humorist Vol 92 (1851)
rather worse than defenestrating, I'd wager.
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so...are you saying it can be 'f' or 'ph' and still be the same word?
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enantiodromic - adj. resulting from enantiodromia (the process by which something becomes its opposite, and the subsequent interaction of the two)
"History is enantiodromic, not necessarily progressive." - Héctor Sabelli, Bios: a study of creation (2005)
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so...are you saying it can be 'f' or 'ph' and still be the same word? yes. would you have it be two in your dictionary?! actually, I must have misspelled it. I tend to ignore the spell checker for these matters..
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I'm having some trouble imagining a good metaphorical use for dephlogisticate.
There's some folks in Congress I'd like to dephlogisticate tous de damn suite.
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Getting back to Brannie's question, a ruse is a trick played on someone so to be rused is to have a trick played on you. Derused is what happens when you realize that it was a ruse that was pulled on you and underused means that you fell for it anyway.
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Wha-at??
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Wha-at?? I think even the gods are confused.
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Jackie tried to pull me in with her "C'mere, I got something for you" trick, but I knew it was just a ruse on her part so I derused myself. Then I read something in Wikipedia that made me think that she really did have something for me so I went over to Jackie only to discover it really was a trick and I had been underused.
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Wha-at?? No wha-ats from me, it's all very logical what Falge says. Some ruses can be so pleasant that you may want to stay underused i.e. you want to hold on to the ruse. (falls under chapter I: 'pleasantly deceived')
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The suite of the damned?
Tous de suite :- 'right now, immediately'.
Tous de damn(ed) suite :- 'right damned now'.
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actually, I must have misspelled it. I tend to ignore the spell checker for these matters..
No..you didn't, I found it swinging both ways on the net
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Tous de suite
Come on Jeem-o. You know too the damn well that it should be tout de suite.
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You know too the damn well that it should be tout de suite.
My French spelling is worse than my English. They'd both be pronounced identically. But since we're equivocatin', the -t becomes an -s before the English d in damn9ed). It's an obscure rule like the one about the two different kinds of h at the beginnings of some French words. You know, Branny: the mute or the haspirated aitches. Anywho, it should be toot sweet as any reader of 007 stories should know ...
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it should be toot sweet as any reader of 007 stories should know ... Which reminds me: how in the world did "St. John" get to be pronounced sinjin?
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haha I always wondered that too Jackie,I just assumed we were lazy in the saint pronunciation - instead pronouncing it as snt, then the snt john got condensed to sntjn, then snjn, hence sinjun. But that is just my random guess...
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how in the world did "St. John" get to be pronounced sinjin?
Forget it; it's history, Jake.
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the mute or the haspirated aitches
Ah! You mean the French sneeze. Yes. Excuse my honest equivocation to give in to the knitpicking not very often.
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From my station you are excused.
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the French sneeze.
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the French sneeze. yeah Jackie we are all a bunch of comedians here lately which is good
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the French sneeze. Late summer doldrums???
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Come on, cm'on. This is one of the most serious threads we've had in months. Read zmjezhd's signs! Enjoy! de-moet aspiré is the freshly opened bottle of champaign.
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champagne? no matter how you spell it, I'll drink to that!
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It's always a bad sign when you have to explain a joke, but in french a distinction is made between two kinds of aitches: muet 'mute' and aspiré 'aspirated'. The former does not get involved in liaison, e.g., l'heure, but the latter impedes it, e.g., le haricot (which is pronounced with a glottal stop between the vowel of le and the vowel beginning the next word). Also, I've always loved that the word for the letter h in English does not begin with an h or in fact have the sound /h/ anywhere within it. The aitch that does occur at the end of the word is not really /h/. I spent a lovely day in Champagne and even went champagne tasting there. In other parts of France, sparkling wine goes by the name blanquette or crémant. Here in the states, those are often cheaper than French champagne.
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hah yeah good bubbly can cost a lot! It is much cheaper to buy in crates though...
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It all is very sound the things you say, but there are some English words starting with an h that have a bit of moetness in them as well 'humor, huge,...human and maybe more. For me rather difficult to pronounce. (unless you pronounce it like j in juwel and judge, don't think so)
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there are some English words starting with an h that have a bit of moetness in them as well 'humor, huge,...human and maybe more.
Well, those words start with an /hj/. The /j/ (not the "j" of jewel, but the "j" of German ja) sort of moves the glottal fricative "h" up a bit towards the soft pallette. So it seems closer to "ch" /ç/ in German ich /ɪç/.
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I certainly aspirate the h of those words. hwaet?
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I've been practi s c z ing since I read your post. Results just meager. I aspire to aspirate. Buffalo, you're a singer, you are a trained aspirator.
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