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I'm not saying that I'd use epicaricacy rather than schadenfreude, I'm just contesting the validity of your dismissing it for being a Greek loan word. And how do some people pronounce schadenfreude? I've never heard it pronounced any way but the German way, albeit with a very thick American accent.
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in a like manner, we could suppose, then, that Burton couldn't bring himself to use the German thingname.
Nope. He used the Greek because his book is literally littered with Greek and a bunch of Latin, too. I don't know if Burton spoke German or read the Seneca translation. I will leave it up to you why he did not use the e-word.
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>I will leave it up to you why he did not use the e-word.
clarification: Burton did not use the S-word.
and, yes, that was a play on your supposition of Trench not bringing himself to use the e-word.
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a compound affection of joy and hate
I have long wondered why I detest the word epicaricacy. I usually snort with derision at lists of hated words (e.g., moist, blog, panties, etc.), and equally at alleged most beautiful words (e.g., cellardoor). I guess it's just one of those personal ticks. I have also wondered why people think the word to be more English than schadenfreude. Ah, well.
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(have you ever know a Joy to be entirely happy?!)
and I snort with derision at lists (and entire books!) of concepts for which there are no words in English!
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I have long wondered my I detest the word epicaricacy.
And yet, it was the e-word that brought you here and allowed us to bask in the reflected glory of your linguistic expertise.
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And yet, it was the e-word that brought you here
Yes, it was. Thanks.
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Smother the one who invented this word slowly and softly in clarified butter. Bask him in expertise on both sides, then feed him to the first epicuricacist you can find.
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reading all this through took some time! I have to say, you both seem to agree on everything...except whether epi is a greek loan word or not...and that never got resolved! sigh...I too can't think of any other way of pronouncing shadenfreude than the german...what way were you thinking of? epi does sound slightly creepy when used in normal conversation (yes I did try and shoehorn it in!) and I am secretly gloating that I managed to get it in and also that tsuwm's hear, here link pronounced with an english accent! (score one for us ) many apologies for not having enough linguistic credentials to add much to epi's origin, but it was fun to read
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