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Candy #201450 07/30/11 03:41 PM
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I don't think I've ever heard them called that....expiry dates.
Where I come from it's "expiration dates".


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I don't think I've ever heard them called that....expiry dates.
Where I come from it's "expiration dates".


I think it's a regional thing. I use "expiry date" because I like the sound of it when giving my CC info over the phone. Nobody has ever asked for a clarification or been confused by it. I live on the Left Coast of the central portion of the North American continent.


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Must be regional. If its used here, then I might just pick up
your habit. Certainly a shorter word.
It's like people who use "uncomfortibility" for discomfort.
Why make it more difficult? Seven syllables when three will do.
"Expiry" - I like it.


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Thanks everyone so much for your inputs.

BranShea, yes, stretchability is certainly implied in 'time span'. 'A space of time', on the other hand, points to a desire and struggle to elevate the subjectivity of experienced time to a more or less objective fact. Or phenomenon (!): I've been thinking that there is not a single better illustration of the phrase than cinema - its temporal duration arises out of the space that frames cover. Could experienced (subjective) time get any more objective?

I've only read the phrase in Dickens - 'Oliver Twist'. But maybe it dates further back...

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Nice to see you back on the subject. To me space and time are such intangible concepts that I cannot really understand what you mean, I fear. We have clocks, mesure and temperature systems that give us the illlusion that time, space and temperature and maybe even colour are objective facts.

I look upon 'a space of time' like an Alice in Wonderland.
I have no idea.
Do you still have that Dickens frase in context?

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The result was, that, after a few struggles, Oliver breathed, sneezed, and proceeded to advertise to the inmates of the workhouse the fact of a new burden having been imposed upon the parish, by setting up as loud a cry as could reasonably have been expected from a male infant who had not been possessed of that very useful appendage, a voice, for a much longer space of time than three minutes and a quarter.

from chapter one

it's simply a duration, here.
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and..

..and although the recognition was only for an instant - for the briefest space of time that can possibly be conceived - it was enough to show the old man that he had been observed.

a moment?
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and now, the OED entry (found under space, rather than time)

space of time n. a period of time.

c1500 Melusine (1895) 335 He came to Nerbonne where he rested hym a lytel space of tyme.
1565 T. Cooper Thesaurus at Intercapedo, After a space of time.
1657 A. Sparrow Rationale Bk. Common Prayer (1661) 244 A good space of time to do it in.
1796 F. Burney Camilla I. ii. xiv. 371 To avoid them and their communications, for however short a space of time, was now her sole aim.
1880 A. H. Sayce Introd. Sci. of Lang. I. 230 The number of the vibrations in any given space of time.
1926 People's Home Jrnl. Feb. 18/1 We want to accomplish as much as possible in the shortest space of time.
2004 Jockey Slut Feb. 92/2 I've never learnt so much in such a short space of time.

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Jockey Slut was a British music magazine which ran between 1993 and 2004, focusing mainly on dance music and club culture. -wiki

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and while I'm at it, intercapedo is given as 'interval, space' by a couple of Latin dict's.

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I see you had some time on your hands and thanks for the eleborate Dickens and dictionary details. A simple duration and a single moment, though in the íntercapedo I'm not sure what Jockey Slut and John Burgess were doing with their space of time.

So intercapedo covers both space and time. Fine. Which makes not much difference to our perception of time and space at least not mine.

'for the briefest space of time that can possibly be conceived -' is rather interesting but...one briefest space of time will sure not be of the same duration as the next one.

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wait a mo! < g >

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