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[steam + punk] neologism : a sub-genre of speculative science fiction set in an anachronistic 19th century society
"There is a new genre climbing to popularity within the science fiction world of writing: steampunk. A mix of Victorian times and futuristic [steam] machines clash to create a unique world.."
I try to find the meaning of 'speculative' in this context. Even if I were a true born native speaker I'm afraid I would not understand.
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speculative in this case means, "What would it have been like if these technologies and cultures had coexisted?"
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Thank you Shrdlu, that makes sense, only I thought in Victorian times [steam] machines already existed. Maybe I'm totally anachronistic myself.
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have you seen the movie Wild Wild West? they had a steam-powered tank, steam-powered airship, etc.
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as t mentions, it takes steam to a whole new level.
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Not steam but I read not too long ago* a novel that took place in a Victorian England where Babbage had built and successfully marketed his difference engine. They were everywhere.
*Long ago that I don't remember the title or author.
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The Difference Engine, by Gibson/Sterling? link
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Amazon isn't being real dialup friendly right now, but that looks like it could be the one. It featured a rather different look in the division of the North American continent without any sort of explanation of whether it had any connection with the difference engine.
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I've read some pages and somehow to me it evoques Winsor McCay's Little Nemo in novel form. Don't know if this is my steaming hot cup of the tea. Those movies then look like action and gadgets. Thank you both for the info. I'm getting the picture.
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Not my cup of tea, either. Moving things with no animus are far from reality.
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I'd say Welcome, but you have me confused.
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yet another drive-by spammer, who must have grown impatient with his response time.
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Okay--did I miss something?
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the spammer and posts are gone and gone.
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Okay--did I miss something? And I doubt you would call it "missing", unless you meant content and coherence.
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First time I have heard of this but am I'm mistaken, it looks like one of the robot heads is sporting 'facial hair'
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Is 'The Golden Compass' considered Steam Punk?
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It has been quite a while since I read it, and I didn't think of it in that way at the time, but I would support the notion that it's at least borderline steampunk. Whether It's generally considered as such I couldn't say. I guess I'll have to re-read it.
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So would steam-emo be like "The Little Engine That Couldn't"?
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The Golden Compass took place, mostly, or either basically, in our regular world. There were parallel universes but that's not the same thing as steam punk.
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There are times when my memory is pathetic.
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Never judge a book by its movie.
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My son just devoured Leviathan and Behemoth by, Scott Westerfeld. The conclusion to the Leviathan trilogy, Goliath, won't be out until September 2011...which annoys him. Does anyone have more Steampunk suggestions? He plays on the computer and PS3 a lot, so finding books to keep his interest was a real surprise. Scott Westerfeld
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If it keeps kids reading, I'm for it.
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The league of extraordinary gentlemen has some elements of steampunk such as the nautilus adapted from captain Nemos submarine.
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gary--nice to see you again.
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I was going to mention the Oppel series, "Airborn", but I see it is t's WikiP list.
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Thanks to all!  The list will help, as I often feel overwhelmed in the book store.
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I have seen some of those stories, but the word 'steampunk' is new to me.
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I spend time in comics' shops. The steampunk draws my attention, but I stick to the old standbys from childhood.
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Like Batman and Robin  So is how did the name steampunk arise?
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Thanks for that Ts, I've read some of that massive article and will go back to it, maybe tomorrow. A bit of a oxymoron then. A modern, historical fiction! Steampunk is a catcher description.
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Like Batman and Robin  So is how did the name steampunk arise? Batman and Robin were around long before steampunk.
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true luke....but even they have been modernised.
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