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Confusion reigning supreme here. Zmjezhd: what wouldyou say is the most correct thing to say, please?
 Wait (    ) I fix breakfast.
 Wait (    )the mailman comes.
 I'll have to stand (   ) the bus comes?
 
 I am just looking for the most correct in sentences like
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what wouldyou say is the most correct thing to say, please?
 Wait ( ) I fix breakfast.
 Wait ( ) the mailman comes.
 I'll have to stand ( ) the bus comes?
 
 Well, tsuwm pretty much summed it up by citing the AHD4 usage note on until. Until and till are pretty much interchangeable. Probably the choice of one over the other has more to do with prosody (how the sentence scans in the metrical sense of the word) than which one is more correct. If I were editing some MS and I came across 'til though I would get out my red pen and circle it.
 
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>If I were editing some MS and I came across ;til though I would get out my red pen and circle it.
 I think jheem means 'til, here.
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I think jheem means 'til, here.
 That I did; corrected, it has been.
 
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what wouldyou say is the most correct thing to say, please?
 Wait ( ) I fix breakfast.
 Wait ( ) the mailman comes.
 I'll have to stand ( ) the bus comes?
 
 Well, tsuwm pretty much summed it up by citing the AHD4 usage note on until. Until and till are pretty much interchangeable. Probably the choice of one over the other has more to do with prosody (how the sentence scans in the metrical sense of the word) than which one is more correct. If I were editing some MS and I came across 'til though I would get out my red pen and circle it.
Thanks, I needed to get that clarified, and will watch what I write from now on. 
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TIL on the internet is acronym for..... Today I Learned.How fitting.
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TIL TIL  
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TIL on the internet is acronym for..... Today I Learned.How fitting.
I need a list of all these acronyms, but probably would not use it, I guess I just believe is saying without all the abbreviating (well except for OK, and maybe a couple of others). 
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There's Internet Acronyms  and, for the more mundane, Acronym Finder . I notice the former doesn't have TIL |  |  |  
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Hey great, thanks.  I have it bookmarked. Just have totrain myself to use it now.
 
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(well except for OK, and maybe a couple ofothers).
Haha OK is actually short for oll korrect  from a slang splurge in the late 1830s in Boston and New York where they abbrieviated  common phrases with deliberate, jocular misspellings, oll korrect - ok, KG (no go) spelt as know go  The noun is first attested 1841; the verb 1888, and FUN FACT: Greek immigrants to America, on returning home with USA slang words were known as the okay-boys ... 
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The OK term was discussed on a couple of sites in the lastfew weeks.  Even the BBC had a side headline about it, if
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