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Some say that the anagram 'eleven plus two = twelve plus one" is due to Lewis Carroll. Can anyone supply the exact reference, please?
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I've learned one interesting thing. An anagram of this sort, where the anagram and the original are identical in meaning, is called an anugram(!). I couldn't find anything to suggest that this particular anugram is due to either Lewis Carroll or Charles Dodgson.
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okay, this is widely quoted as an example of an 'anugram' (and I note that Anu glosses it in his anagrams odds & ends with not so much as a hint of explanation or even a smirk). but, while not having done any extended research, I didn't note any *other examples.
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here are some "clever" anagrams, some of which may be true: clever? true?? the comments to this list include claims for origin/dates, and one such claim is this: Eleven plus two = Twelve plus one. Melvin O. Wellman, 1948 here's some support for the Wellman claim: http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-118185171.htmlanyone care to verify the following? To be or not to be: that is the question, whether tis nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune. = In one of the Bard’s best-thought-of tragedies, our insistent hero, Hamlet, queries on two fronts about how life turns rotten.
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Is called an 'anugram' by whom? Not me, and I think I'm entitled to an opinion. The following two Spanish anagrams are my own: uno + catorce = cuatro + once (1 + 14 = 4 + 11) and dos + trece = tres + doce (2 + 13 = 3 + 12)[first pub. in Word Ways, Feb 1992, Vol 25, No 1]. But I would still like to know who is responsible for two + eleven = one + twelve.
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one is left to assume, then, that you don't buy Wellman?!
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anyone care to verify the following?
its all here tsuwm = Hamlets wit rules
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OMG! OLLY!  You are WONderful, sir! Hands down winnah and hats off to you! 
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Okay Joe, many thanks for the link.
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minimalist anugram:
YEA = AYE
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Even more minimalist: (I) AM MA.
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I've learned one interesting thing. An anagram of this sort, where the anagram and the original are identical in meaning, is called an anugram(!). I couldn't find anything to suggest that this particular anugram is due to either Lewis Carroll or Charles Dodgson. A topical anugram for today: MARGARET THATCHER = THAT GREAT CHARMER(No, I didn't make it up myself...)
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Anbd, from a few years back - commenting on the leader of the Democratic Unionist Party in Northern Ireland, the doughty
REV IAN PAISLEY = VILE IRA PANSY
I'm immortal until proven otherwise
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