Wordsmith.org: the magic of words

Wordsmith Talk

About Us | What's New | Search | Site Map | Contact Us  

Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 2 of 3 1 2 3
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 11,613
Carpal Tunnel
Offline
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 11,613
Hey, guess what I just found out? Onelook now has Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary as a choice; I tried it, and it will actually let you see the word in the Visual Thesaurus. (I don't subscribe, so all my other efforts have failed since it stopped being free.)

I wasn't impressed, though, that the Cambridge didn't give the origin for valid, so I went to AHD, which offered:
ADJECTIVE:

1. Well grounded; just: a valid objection.
2. Producing the desired results; efficacious: valid methods.
3. Having legal force; effective or binding: a valid title.

4. Logic
a. Containing premises from which the conclusion may logically be derived: a valid argument.
b. Correctly inferred or deduced from a premise: a valid conclusion.

5. Archaic Of sound health; robust.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ETYMOLOGY:
French valide, from Old French, from Latin validus, strong, from valre, to be strong; see wal- in Indo-European roots

Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 13,803
Carpal Tunnel
Offline
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 13,803
It should be noted that the prefix dis- is not always a negating prefix. In particular, the dis- of disgruntled is not negating, it is intensive. Another case of dis- being used as an intensive is in the word disannul. YCLIU.

Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,290
Carpal Tunnel
Offline
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,290
the prefix dis- is not always a negating prefix

This illustrates how many normative grammarians are misled by extra-linguistic considerations into manhandling the language. The notion that language must be consistent in the distribution of its vocabulary. This leads to concerns such as that in this thread. That the form disgruntled lacks a positive without the prefix. One can also note that the past participle lacks a verb: gruntelen 'to grunt (frequently)' which dropped out of the language during the Middle English period.


Ceci n'est pas un seing.
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 5,295
Carpal Tunnel
Offline
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 5,295
Then the tall ship stranded on the hapless coast of lost positives

tangle ; mid-14c., nasalized variant of tagilen "to involve in a difficult situation, entangle," from a Scandinavian source (cf. dialectal Swed. taggla "to disorder," O.N. žongull "seaweed").

entangle; early 15c., from en- (1) + tangle. Related: Entangled; entangling.

disentangle; 1590s; see dis- + entangle. Related: Disentangled; disentangling.

'tangle' 'entangle' 'disentangle'
How should I see 'disentangle'? As positive or as nagative?

Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 11,613
Carpal Tunnel
Offline
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 11,613
nagative I love it! And I am NOT going to tell Hubby.

Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 5,295
Carpal Tunnel
Offline
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 5,295
Hmm.., does this typo have some meaning I don't know of?

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 956
old hand
Offline
old hand
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 956
verb (used without object)

to find fault or complain in an irritating, wearisome, or relentless manner (often fol. by at ): If they start nagging at each other, I'm going home.

Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 11,613
Carpal Tunnel
Offline
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 11,613
Yes; a nagging wife is a stereotype, unfortunately based all too often on truth. But it's not our fault: you men simply refuse to mature! Pick up after your danged selves! Put your dirty clothes in the hamper! Don't eat like a p... uh,...oops! wink

Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,290
Carpal Tunnel
Offline
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,290
you men simply refuse to mature!

You talkin' t'me?


Ceci n'est pas un seing.
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 13,803
Carpal Tunnel
Offline
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 13,803
When a man marries a woman he hopes she'll never change, but she always does. When a woman marries a man she hopes he'll change, but never does.

Page 2 of 3 1 2 3

Moderated by  Jackie 

Link Copied to Clipboard
Forum Statistics
Forums16
Topics13,913
Posts229,581
Members9,187
Most Online3,341
Dec 9th, 2011
Newest Members
Karin, JeffMackwood, artguitar, Jim_W, Rdbuffalo
9,187 Registered Users
Who's Online Now
0 members (), 380 guests, and 0 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Top Posters(30 Days)
Top Posters
wwh 13,858
Faldage 13,803
Jackie 11,613
wofahulicodoc 10,713
tsuwm 10,542
LukeJavan8 9,931
AnnaStrophic 6,511
Wordwind 6,296
of troy 5,400
Disclaimer: Wordsmith.org is not responsible for views expressed on this site. Use of this forum is at your own risk and liability - you agree to hold Wordsmith.org and its associates harmless as a condition of using it.

Home | Today's Word | Yesterday's Word | Subscribe | FAQ | Archives | Search | Feedback
Wordsmith Talk | Wordsmith Chat

© 1994-2024 Wordsmith

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5