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Here's the figures from English fiction.
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Interesting...so it's going up again now then? I thought we may have won that one!
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My point is that "ATM machine" has been scoring zero since the beginning. Hardly counts as a win if the opponent doesn't even show up. But if you want to fight against this one maybe it'll keep you too busy to fight some of the others that don't need fighting against.
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"Self autonomy" is a personal pet hate...I shall henseforth abandon my crusade against ATM machine and move onto more annoying ones...;)
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One more on ATM's
CNN reports today that they are dirtier than public
restrooms. Just for the record.
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And a sponge is dirtier than a toilet...as are keyboards...Everything is dirtier than a toilet!
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Just my two bits on ATM machines (ha)
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"Self autonomy" is a personal pet hate...I shall henseforth abandon my crusade against ATM machine and move onto more annoying ones...;) Self autonomy?! OK, so it does get tens of thousands of google hits, but really, "self autonomy"?! It makes "ATM machine" look like "the".
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Ah but it is a political term that is unlikely to appear in any of the political books because they know that autonomy doesn't need the self in front of it...it is normal non-political-ideological people who put the self in front. Hence it not being found in books...
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many of these hits are false (see commas, colons, etc.); but still, it is being found in books: self-autonomy in books
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The self autonomy top hit is self , autonomy thus giving a different meaning...
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please re-see my post (including parenthetical).
edit: I'll admit to not looking at the results too deeply, but 5 of 10 on the first page are 'self-autonomy', and also 8 of 20; that's not "not".
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I apologise then on seeing some genuine psychiatric books with the term self-autonomy in them - they should know better! Especially as they probably did a little bit of working at university and know that auto means self...tsk tsk
p.s. autonomy is, quite literally, "independent, living by one's own laws," from auto- "self" + nomos "custom, law". In political ideological speak it means self-rule, free from outside interference (found in anarchism)
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Autonomy, as a political term, generally refers to a state being autonomous in reference to some larger state of which it is a part. I could see self-autonomy being used as a term of art in psychiatry where the self- is added to differentiate it from political autonomy. I would say that objections to the term self-autonomy would then just be overly literal objections to what really amounts to precision in language, not an uncommon trait in the field of peevology.
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I only ever used autonomy whilst discussing the anarchist ideology because it was generally accepted that governments or states were ruling themselves as well as the state...autonomy tends to be used as a replacement for the state dictates that anarchists believe in (autonomy and no state or any authority except your own)
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as Bran said elsewhere; spam.
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as Bran said elsewhere; spam. if spam is suspected, click the "Notify" button of the offending post. (which I have done for this one and the other mentioned lower on the page.)
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...as I have done, so it has been done twice, you and me.
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Well, that was weird. I went to edit the spam post...and the link wasn't there! So I just deleted the whole thing. If that was not actually spam but something we should be interested in, I offer my apologies and ask the post-er to re-post it with perhaps some explanation.
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the link was in their signature, Jackie, not in the post per se.
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Ah--I'll try to remember to check that, next time. I'm afraid it's too late for this time. Thanks.
A reminder for the "old" folks and a notification for the new: I absolutely do not change other peoples' posts unless there are extenuating circumstances.
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And that, of course, is good to know. This spam had something
to do with a casino in Singapore or something. It was not
in English, could only tell by the pictures with it.
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you can use 'google translate' it works well.
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It was not in sentences, big bill board type of advertising.
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Hello everyone I just came Register......
oh good for you 
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I just came Register.
I b'lieve what we got hiah is spam in Thai ... Not that I read Thai, but the links are obvious enough in English.
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Hello everyone I just came Register......
oh good for you and all over the pleonasm thread, too... ;¬ )
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In this thread rather inappropriate o....u. unwelcome 
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another spammer (ohooahaasusu) and his posts gone and gone.
can someone explain (perhaps again) why there are always more Spiders online than registered and Guests combined? (I think we've establish *what they are, but why are they always present in such numbers?)
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So the ohoo....person was a spammer. Thai, was it? Wonder
what it said. If I had known Thai I might have babelfished
or googletranslated.
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The link that was his signature was a link to an on-line gambling site.
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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How rude!
This person also registered the name ilikethat2499 so I suppose we should be on the lookout for similar posts.
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another spammer (ohooahaasusu) and his posts gone and gone.
can someone explain (perhaps again) why there are always more Spiders online than registered and Guests combined? (I think we've establish *what they are, but why are they always present in such numbers?) Aren't spiders besides search engines also people who come to read without being logged in? Like 'invisibles' are subscribed invisables, these can be subscribed ànd unsubscribed invisables reading from an unlogged position.
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The link that was his signature was a link to an on-line gambling site. I saw that when I used the quote from the post. The signature took up 1/2 page so I edited it out. I should have recognised that it was spam  Bran... people who don't sign in are 'guests'. I want to know what spiders are too.
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My understanding is that spiders are bots sent out by search engines looking for things that are going to be searched for. So, if you google, say, wordsmith candy pleonasm the search engine will have already figured out where to go looking for those strings.
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'guests'
Thanks, I hope I'll remember that.
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Oohaahaasusu - I do not know what it means in Thai but in India across the subcontinent the last bit of the word "susu" means - well YCLIU... It is an onomatopoeic word.
On the whole the name suggests great relief at taking a pee.
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In this thread rather inappropriate o....u. unwelcome sorry Bran. 
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