ery unlike the ANZAC, for example-- which was shown as one of the challanges in the Olympic Marathon race. ?????!!!!????
My initial reaction was exactly the same CapK, but on reading your post, I was shamed by the realisation that our helen's recall of Sydney georgraphy was so much better than mine own. I seem to recall a dedication of an ANZAC bridge in Sydney a little while back, and suspect that is what helen was referring to.
Memories of WWII (The Late, Great Misunderstanding):
The troops from Australia and New Zealand were commonly known as ANJACs ..Does it stand for Australian and New Zealand Army Corp ... or what? The AC bit mystifies me. wow
Oh yes-- i didn't watch all of the olympics-- but i felt for the mathoners as they ran up the up ramp approach to the the ANZAC bridge--No shade, far into the race, and a big hill to run up! The commentator explaned the meaning of ANZAC-- it was the first time i heard the word--
and my post was a bit hasty-- as the head honco (title is Regional Adminstrator- top post in the office-- one of top 10 in country for this organization!) called me to office for personal tutorial on some software--
as the head honco…called me to office for personal tutorial on some software
Now, you know, Helen dear, that when you throw a comment like that into this here forum you have to expect a little woo-wooing and definitely a lot of nudge-nudge wink-winking
Please EXCUSE ( I should have said PARDON but the cost of pardons is reputed to be escalating)this very belated post to your responses, but I have, perforce, been otherwise engaged in the Real World. It's good to be back. Allow me to offer a general word of thanks to all and some specific replies to Qs and comments.
First, thanks for answering my basic question about "rules". If there had been rules, I wanted to know about them and respect them. Since there seem to be few - and these loosely defined, I shall, as you advised, plough ahead lexlessly and recklessly, and then await your further guidance in whatever form. I hasten to assure that my skin, seasoned elsewhere over some several decades, is the envy of many a battle-scarred old rhino. Ergo, "lay on, McDuff, and damned' be he(she) who first ..."etc. and I shall accordingly feel free to fire off to the E-postles similarly appropriate E-posts and E-pistles of my own. Next to some specific responses. ---------------------------------------------------------- (b)To WWH re: Scribbler,fire at will, but not Will(/b) Note I do not think the BOLD is working. must be doing it wrong! No, Dr. Will, I WILL not fire at you. I do hope, however, that you and the others are straight about the concern over the souls of the torpedoes. ILIU (I looked It Up, to be sure.)Admiral Farragut, at Mobile Bay (in the 1860s) said "Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!" Years later, Adm. Dewey, entering Manila Bay, undoubtedly said Something but history records no damning of torpedoes. FYI the torpedoes in question were not the self-propelled projectiles used by submarines of WWI and WWII, but were rather mines anchored out of sight slightly below the surface of the water. ---------------------------------------------------------- To TSUM 1.Did Scribbler read this? A. Yes, quite obviously. 2. FYI, Your Worthiness, I receive a daily Wordsworth of entertainment from WWFTD and find that the quotidian offerings of WWFTD are always interesting,often magnisonant and sometimes even useful. Thank You! #. What is "IOW"? A. My guess is that it means "In Other Words". It seems a useful shortcut. As for my "guesses",however, please note that, until set straight by the Board, I had "guessed", from the context, that YART meant "You Already Read This??" Close enough, but no cigar. 4. Q. "Shall we never find Thee out?" CAREL A. "For everything there is a time, a time to ...etc." Eccles. ------------------------------------------------------------ An Epistolary note to Mr. Bingley (On an un-related topic) -----------------------------------------------------------My dear Mr. Bingley, Am I mistaken, dear Sir, or do I have the honor of addressing ...... eh, that is to say that, certain evidence suggests .. implies .... Damme, Sir, if , in fact you are he who married .. When was it??? Merciful God! Could it have been, in the wicked warp of Time, two CENTURIES ago? ... Ah, well ... At all events, dear Sir, I beg pardon for this breach of civility, this undue familiarity, but if you ARE he who took to wife Jane B___, then pray convey to her AND to her dearest sister Lizzy, (Is she yet - and forever!- Lady D__?)the most delightful, high spirited creature who ever graced ... Enough! Enough! A word from you, post restante,and all will be known. For now, dear Sir, believe me to be .... Yrs most sincerely & etc. Scribbler ------------------------------------------------------------- Without seeking to be complete, I close w/ a scattering of thanks to new friends- To Priest and High Priestess, to Mlle Bel and Cara Dea,to His Worthiness and the Captain, Max, Geoff and Alex (behind you, Alex!), to Jo, Jackie & TEd, to Marty, Dr. Will and Splckr and, not least, to Sparteye and to Sparta (Spartan was she ere she saw Troy ) You can, of course,take the girl out of the country, but you cannot take the country.... etc and speaking of Troy,(and Grecian Marathons) "Are these the hips that faced a thousand haunches, and toppled the topless towers of .... ANZAC?" Scribbler, on advice of friends, ploughs ahead fearlessy and awaits further guidance. Proofed and Mutatis mutandis (Unless the Spelchecker screws it up!)
Dear Scribbler: Ordinarily I avoid ethanol, but I envy you the beverage that so delightfully loosens your tongue, propels your pen, and presses the the keys of your keyboard to such pleasant effect.wwh
Thank you for raising the issue. We have known for some time that Mr Bingley is the very same person as the subject of your screed. Fortunately, he was an early recipient of crygenics. He was meant to be fully defrosted in 2001 to co-incide with the re-release of Mr Kubrick's film. Unfortunately some of the instructions were lost in transit to Indonesia and the date was mis-read, so he was thawed a year too early and he is feeling a little green around the gills but then, sic transit gloria mundi. He has asked that his true identity be kept secret from the rest of the world as he is worried about the consequent press coverage and invasion of his privacy. So please do not let this discussion leave the privacy of AWAD, his "safe house" for the present. AnnaStrophic, a highly trained agent, has been given special orders to dispose of anyone who lets the secret out so do not underestimate this instruction!
Your post of March first is, I think, about the most amazing one I have ever seen here. It is: happy, careful, witty, intelligent, assertive, meek, seeking, taking, general, specific, polite, wordful, wordfull, explanatory, asking, dry, serious, fun, highly literate, combining, separating (hang on, I'm only through the second paragraph), knowledgeable, noteworthy, wide-ranging, honorific, learned, respectful, friendly, open, humble, beholden, arcane, complimentary, and---NEW!
I think we can all look with eager anticipation for whatever you post, my dear! I am SO glad you're here!!!!!
I believe you to have misnomer'd your own self. I shall endeavour to -- non, se mettre en devoir de faire quelquechose -- address you henceforth as scrivener.
Dear Scribbler, I have come but lately to this thread, which only now have I read in its entirety. I missed, therefore, any earlier opportunity to welcome you to this motley - though noble - companionship. I would, you may rest assured, have done so without reservation had that opportunity availed. But, having perused your latest missive, may I add, to whatever belated welcome I may offer, my admiration for your perspicacity, erudition and wit. You are, Sir, without doubt, an acquisition to this board for which we may all rejoice and to which we may look forward in eager anticipation to your continued intelectual additions to our mutual adumbrations.
My sister-in-law, whose whereabouts is also being concealed from the curious eyes of the World, presents her best compliments. She desires me to express a sense of her utmost gratitude that her childish effusions should meet with the approbation of so discriminating a taste as Mr. Scribbler's.
My dear Mr. Bingley, Allow me to say, Sir, that you are Kindness itself. You cannot know with what pleasure your most welcome letter was received. I awakened to a cold, bleak dawn. Your epistle brought with it rays of sunshine dispelling - somewhat! - the gloom of the State of Grace-lessness that - res miserabilis - has become LIFE! in the 21st Century. The step of Scribbler, burdened by years, somehow attained a certain spring. But I ungraciously impose upon your time and privacy. So - enough for now. Pray accept for yourself, and pass on to your good lady -and, as well, to The Others! - the heartfelt compliments of your Correspondent. If, in the fullness of Time, you would do me the honor, tempe de tempe, of sending me a line, I assure you, dear Sir, that any such would be most gratefully appreciated by - may I so boldly presume? - Your friend, Scribbler
As the curtain opens, Scribbler is standing, upstage right, talking, in mid sentence, His voice is soft, broad vowels stretched a bit too long, his final consonants are soft, Southern,and almost imperceptible. He is a tall man, about --but let's see what he is saying - -
SCRIBBLER: I'm sure glad to see all off you folks from the AWAD Board here tonight. And special thanks to you,Jackie, for all of those nice things you said to me. That was a long list, but I'm glad you left out "Trustworthy, Loyal, Brave, Clean, and Reverent" or the Boy Scouts mighta tried to take me back to see if I coulda moved up from Second Class Scout. Well, as I tol' y'all a minit ago, I gotta go backstage to see if I can help.
Exit - downstage right. House lights blink twice, then remain off. Noises off. A rustle of papers - a clearing of a throat. No one is onstage, but there is a Voice heard from offstage. Is it Scribbler's? Surely it is, but different, richer, fuller. A theatre voice, a radio voice without trace of a regional accent. Listen --
Voice: And Jackie, my dear, I did so very much admire those clever things you said in your response to Alex Williams's Reintarnation post of 1/29. Such wit- Such verve - Bravo! That Reintarnation schtick looks like so much fun that I think that I shall have a new run at it. But if I do, or when I do, it will only be in imitation of your talent. You know they say that "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery," but Oscar Wilde, the consummate epigrammist, refined the phrase to its essence. "Imitation," said the genius Mr. Wilde, "is the Tribute that Mediocrity pays to Genius." Those words always sit very close to my Scribbling heart as a constant reminder, when, as Reader, I read the works of authors I admire. In consequence of all of which, Dear Lady,permit me to dedicate, as Tribute to your inspiring Genius, my future Reintarnation(Newlogism) post to you. Know that I am, and shall remain, ever your ....
Mediocrity (and, as well, Scribbler)
All is quiet. House lights go up. The crowd begins to shuffle out. Then another Voice from ... Somewhere?.. An old, creaking, high-pitched voice, British or perhaps -- "Carry on, old chap, and the Luck O' the Irish to you. Remember, you have promises to keep and reams to write before you sleep."
Of our auld acquaintance Bingley and his good ladywife.
Aye, lass. I ken thee well. Dinna concern tha self for ol' McScribbler whose vaulting spirit is ever in th'Highlands (his truant heart yet insisting on remaining within his breast in the USA). Tha secret's safe wi me. My lips are sealed til Birnan Wood shall remove (AGAIN) to Dunsinane. Of Annastrophe, pray tell me more, for of her role, I canna ken. Am I meant to ken?
but the pale refers specifically to the wall about Dublin...a few years past 1000... that keep the irish out of dublin
Helen - a note on "the pale" - it also refers to that area of "Russia" where the Jews were forced to live during the reign of, let's see, I'm supposed to know this... here, after a bit of quick research on my bookshelves, I have found this: After the partition of Poland, the Jews of Russia consituted the largest Jewish community in the world. Their legal situation during the nineteenth century was entirely subject to the capreciousness of the czarist regime. A tradionalist czar like Nicholas I, who wanted toconfine the Jews to The Pale of Settlement, interpreted "integration" as "conversion." emphasis mine ---from A Historical Atlas of the Jewish People edited by Eli Barnavi (Shocken Books, NY 1992).
And I have a map of the area, so if anyone would like to see it, I can scan and send it - btw, is there anyway to include a small (or large) image in either a posting OR in a private message (sent via the board)???
I suppose that the 'idea' of creating 'The Pale of Settlement' came from what happened in Ireland! So, once again, we see that there is nothing new under the SUN!
Sorry if I interjected toooooooo much history into this posting, but once again, since I'm a tour guide with no tourists to guide, I feel the need to 'practice' and you guys get the 'benefit'[I-can-see-that-you-are-thrilled emoticon]...
Shoshannah
suzanne pomeranz, tourism consultant
jerusalem, israel - suztours@gmail.com
Shoshannah asked btw, is there anyway to include a small (or large) image in either a posting OR in a private message (sent via the board)???
If you go to http://www.myspace.com and login as maxquordlepleen, password Crescent, you can upload anything you think may be of interest to Board members into the folder named AWADabilia. The site may be down from time to time, I am currently evaluating other web storage sites to see if they are easier to use and more reliable.
Max - thanks for the info on adding images (and you, too, tsuwm) - actually, I read about your AWADabilia site but I haven't yet had a chance to go there for a look! But I will...
Max - only one quick note - you ended with "Salaam" but com-o-van (of course) you do know that my language here in ISRAEL is e-vrit (HEBREW) - so the word I use is Shalom!
Shoshannah she said with elbows bent at her side, palms up and slightly extended while shrugging her shoulders and making that irritating little 'tsk tsk' sound with her ...!!
suzanne pomeranz, tourism consultant
jerusalem, israel - suztours@gmail.com
Max - only one quick note - you ended with "Salaam" but com-o-van (of course) you do know that my language here in ISRAEL is e-vrit (HEBREW) - so the word I use is Shalom!
Indeed, and I do hope that I gave no offence by using a greeting in the other official language of Medinat Yisra'el. Actually, I use salaam for the same reasons I use namaste. It sounds nice, and it's a link to my father's birthplace. He grew up in what is now Pakistan, and salaam was, and is, an everyday greeting in that part of world.
I do hope that I gave no offence by using a greeting in the other official language of Medinat Yisra'el.
Max - no offence taken - only, just now, I'm afraid it's very hard to stay interested in learning or speaking any Arabic - the more bombs they detonate against us or the more shooting at us (with AK-47s, I might add) or throwing stones (and believe me, these are not pebbles, rather they are large jagged pieces of hard limestone - remember that stoning used to be a regular form of execution here... and is quickly becoming so again, it seems)... killing people who are just trying to go about regular daily lives... killing people who are NOT in conflict with them, except in their minds, just by our existence..., they more I simply stop trying to get along. [please excuse my rambling emoticon]
Well, that's not exactly true - I'm always interested in getting along with those who are different, but I want them to respect me in the same way that I am supposed to respect them, and unfortunately, it seems that it just doesn't work that way.
It all just makes me tired... [heavy sigh emoticon]
Shoshannah
Oh, and thanks for writing the name of the State of Israel in correctly transliterated Hebrew! Not many understand the word Yisra'el, so it's nice to meet someone who does!
Whoops - now I show my ignorance - what is Noho ora mai????
suzanne pomeranz, tourism consultant
jerusalem, israel - suztours@gmail.com
It is the closing salutation used on NZ's Maori language TV news bulletin, and expresses a sentiment very similar to shalom aleichem. "Noho" means "continue" or "remain", "ora" means "health, well-being,peace", and "mai" is a preposition meaning "toward". Perhaps the best English equivalents are themselves translations from the Vulcan: "Live long and prosper", "peace and long life".
Perhaps the best English equivalents are themselves translations from the Vulcan: "Live long and prosper", "peace and long life".
Which hand signal is from the Kabballah - the mystical side of Judaism - and can be seen in paintings and images in some of the very old synagogues in S'fat (up in the Galil).
BTW - I understand there is something very significant about a person that can actually make this hand signal without any effort - and it happens that I am one of them, so I hope the significance is good!
Whaddyathink?
Shoshannah
suzanne pomeranz, tourism consultant
jerusalem, israel - suztours@gmail.com
BTW - I understand there is something very significant about a person that can actually make this hand signal without any effort
Really? I have never been able to understand how anybody could have trouble with the gesture. Even with my functionally impaired right hand, it's not that hard, with my left, it's almost autonomic.
I have never been able to understand how anybody could have trouble with the gesture.
Me neither - but others have told me they can NOT do it!
Actually, the reason you nor I have trouble doing this is because we were born with the correct gene - probably something inherited from the Vulcans who originally inhabited this planet (and, of course, taught it to the Kabbalists which is how Leonard Nimoy learned it - when he was researching ancient Vulcan culture in preparing for his role...) and may be watching us even now as we go about our daily lives or take too much time out of it to post messages to this board!
Ya know - the Vulcans actually liked living here, but then they decided to import Tribbles to be their pets and, well, the rest is history, as they say (sort of like what kudzu did to the roadsides of the southern USA).
And, now that I've passed from being a stranger to being a newbie (b'hatz-la-chah to me), I can say, with a clear conscience and a good feeling way deep down inside... Lila tov and see you all on the 'morrow!
Shoshannah
suzanne pomeranz, tourism consultant
jerusalem, israel - suztours@gmail.com
Really? I have never been able to understand how anybody could have trouble with the gesture. Even with my functionally impaired right hand, it's not that hard, with my left, it's almost autonomic.
Well, I can do the Vulcan greeting gesture with my right hand, but if I try with my left hand all it produces is a trembling in my little and ring fingers. My left hand doesn't seem to be otherwise impaired.
I can make the Vulcan "sign" with both hands, equally well {puffed with pride icon soon to be deflated she fears} Did you know that Captain Kirk could not make the sign and when it was necessary he do so for the plot they had to tie the fingers to each other? Must be genetic, like being able to curl the edges of the tongue while sticking it out! {prepared for onslaught she slinks away} wow
I can make the Vulcan "sign" with both hands, equally well {puffed with pride icon soon to be deflated she fears} Did you know that Captain Kirk could not make the sign and when it was necessary he do so for the plot they had to tie the fingers to each other? Must be genetic, like being able to curl the edges of the tongue while sticking it out! {prepared for onslaught she slinks away}
Okay - if you're slinking, so am I 'cause I can do the Vulcan sign with both hands WHILE curling the edges of my tongue when sticking it out... there must be a word for this condition??????
I did not know that about Captain Kirk - well, I knew he couldn't actually make the sign himself, but I didn't realize they had to tie his fingers together... In this day, they'd simply superimpose someone else's hand onto the picture using computer imagery... oooh, that was interesting [yawning as she tries to find the send button emoticon]
Shoshannah
suzanne pomeranz, tourism consultant
jerusalem, israel - suztours@gmail.com
Okay - if you're slinking, so am I 'cause I can do the Vulcan sign with both hands WHILE curling the edges of my tongue when sticking it out... there must be a word for this condition??????
The two functions must be common together, as I am also able to make the Vulcan gesture with both hands while poking out my curled tongue. It seems curious that almost the only thing I can do with my righ hand is make a gesture of salutation and peace. Curious, yet apt.
>Okay - if you're slinking, so am I 'cause I can do the Vulcan sign with both hands WHILE curling the edges of my tongue when sticking it out... there must be a word for this condition??????
Well, the way I see it, the world is made up of the Vul-cans and the Vul-can'ts ~ [unrelenting need to make the puns that are too cheap for TEd to touch emoticon]
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amidst all the craziness of this world [trying-to-get-beyond-being-a-stranger-emoticon]
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to being a newbie
(b'hatz-la-chah to me), I can say, with a clear conscience and a good feeling way deep down inside... Lila tov and see you all on the 'morrow!
