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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Oenohoi #186469 08/14/2009 1:14 AM Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 618 Australia doc_comfort addict doc_comfort addict Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 618 Australia Somewhere, somewhen I came across this word. However, now that I'm looking for it, I can find it anywhere. The definition I had is the same as a symposiarch - a kind of sommelier in ancient greece. Does (or did) the word exist? With this meaning or any other? Or have I just made it up? Copy Link to Clipboard Re: Oenohoi doc_comfort #186470 08/14/2009 1:53 AM Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 956 Auckland, New Zealand olly old hand olly old hand Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 956 Auckland, New Zealand The only reference I could find was to it being a type of carafe. Copy Link to Clipboard Re: Oenohoi olly #186471 08/14/2009 2:01 AM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 How'd that H get in there? Copy Link to Clipboard Re: Oenohoi doc_comfort #186475 08/14/2009 2:25 AM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky Jackie Carpal Tunnel Jackie Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky This is as close as I could find, Honey, but like olly's it doesn't mean a person, it's a thing. Oenochoai a wine pitcher or jug, characterized by a curved handle extending from the lip to the shoulder, and a round or trefoil mouth. (Dictionary.com) Copy Link to Clipboard Re: Oenohoi doc_comfort #186481 08/14/2009 5:15 AM Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,290 R'lyeh zmjezhd Carpal Tunnel zmjezhd Carpal Tunnel Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,290 R'lyeh Well, wine in Greek is οινος (oinos). There is a verb οινοχοεω (oinokhoeō) 'to pour out wine' and a noun οινοχοος (oinokhoos) 'wine pourer; cup-bearer'. Its plural would be οινοχοοι (oinokhooi). I suppose the latter could be transliterated into the Latin alphabet as oenochoi. Ceci n'est pas un seing. Copy Link to Clipboard Re: Oenohoi zmjezhd #186485 08/14/2009 6:17 AM Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 2,154 British Columbia, Canada Zed Pooh-Bah Zed Pooh-Bah Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 2,154 British Columbia, Canada looks easier to say than sommelier after a few too many samples; you could kind of slur it out and as long as you managed some sort of k sound the guy (or jug) would still show up to serve you. Copy Link to Clipboard Re: Oenohoi Zed #186490 08/14/2009 11:59 AM Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,295 Netherlands, the Hague BranShea Carpal Tunnel BranShea Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,295 Netherlands, the Hague Ha! for the comment. Something related to the word οινοχόος link Jim, could you translate what's written under the monochrome image? Last edited by BranShea; 08/14/2009 12:11 PM. Copy Link to Clipboard Re: Oenohoi BranShea #186495 08/14/2009 1:47 PM Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,290 R'lyeh zmjezhd Carpal Tunnel zmjezhd Carpal Tunnel Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,290 R'lyeh could you translate what's written under the monochrome image? There is more than one monochromatic picture on the page, but I'll assume that it's the one you searched on. Another caveat, my Classical Greek is not that good, and my Modern Greek is almost non-existent aside from some pleasantries and food items. The page is in Modern Greek. One hint is in the caption under the image: Η δηλητηρίαση του Αλέξανδρου σε μεσαιωνική παράσταση. Μπροστά διακρίνεται ο οινοχόος Ιόλλας που έριξε το δηλητήριο στο κρασί του Μπροστά (Mprosta) 'before, ahead, in front'. The phonology of Modern Greek is quite different from Classical Greek. Think of the difference between Latin and Italian. {β} beta was pronounced /b/ in CGk, but is pronounced /v/ in MGk. {μπ} is a digraph for /b/ in MGk. Anyway: The poisoning of Alexander in a Medieval representation. In front is Iollas (link), the cup-bearer, who threw the poison in. Ceci n'est pas un seing. Copy Link to Clipboard Re: Oenohoi zmjezhd #186501 08/14/2009 6:42 PM Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,295 Netherlands, the Hague BranShea Carpal Tunnel BranShea Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,295 Netherlands, the Hague Thank you, yes it was the caption under that image I meant. "οινοχοος (oinokhoos) 'wine pourer; cup-bearer'. Its plural would be οινοχοοι (oinokhooi). " I've always found 'sommelier' a very strange word, considering where it stands for. It makes me think of sommeil and oreiller (sleep and pillow) Well, the sommelier in this picture provides an eternal sleep for sure. Copy Link to Clipboard Moderated by  Jackie  Hop To General Topics ------  Information and announcements  Q&A about words  Wordplay and fun  Words and languages in schools  Miscellany  Weekly Themes  Looking for (writers, speakers,... 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