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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread wend #184780 05/14/2009 4:54 PM Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 4 Washington, D.C. M. McQuoid stranger M. McQuoid stranger Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 4 Washington, D.C. I wonder.... Is 'wend' related to 'wander'? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: wend M. McQuoid #184786 05/14/2009 7:52 PM Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,295 Netherlands, the Hague BranShea Carpal Tunnel BranShea Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,295 Netherlands, the Hague It's that you ask about it. I had already looked it up on Online Etymology: > link Online Etymology as I was wondering about the relation with "to wind" 'That long and winding road that leads etc.' wend "to proceed on," O.E. wendan "to turn, go," from P.Gmc. *wandijanan (cf. O.S. wendian, O.N. venda, O.Fris. wenda, Du. wenden, Ger. wenden, Goth. wandjan "to turn"), causative of O.E. windan "to turn, twist" (see wind (v.)), from base *wand-, *wend- "turn." Surviving only in to wend one's way, and in hijacked past tense form went. wind (v.) "move by turning and twisting," O.E. windan "to turn, twist, wind" (class III strong verb; past tense wand, pp. wunden), from P.Gmc. *wendanan (cf. O.S. windan, O.N. vinda, O.Fris. winda, Du. winden, O.H.G. wintan, Ger. winden, Goth. windan "to wind"), from PIE *wendh- "to turn, wind, weave" (cf. L. viere "twist, plait, weave," vincire "bind," Lith. vyti "twist, wind"). Related to wend, which is its causative form, and to wander. Wind down "come to a conclusion" is recorded from 1952; wind up "come to a conclusion" is from 1825. Winding sheet "shroud of a corpse" is attested from c.1420. Last edited by BranShea; 05/14/2009 8:06 PM. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: wend BranShea #184793 05/14/2009 10:48 PM Joined: May 2009 Posts: 1 nsilverrod stranger nsilverrod stranger Joined: May 2009 Posts: 1 I always think of wend as meaning to meander, to wander, to go slowly. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: wend nsilverrod #184797 05/15/2009 5:35 AM Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,295 Netherlands, the Hague BranShea Carpal Tunnel BranShea Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,295 Netherlands, the Hague Yes, welcome and so to MC Quoid. That's what made me associate it with that long and winding road. Wenden is a Dutch verb meaning a moderate change of direction. It's used in a figurative way as "wenden en keren". Context: "whichever way you wendt and turn it, it can't be done." Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: wend BranShea #184802 05/15/2009 12:40 PM Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,290 R'lyeh zmjezhd Carpal Tunnel zmjezhd Carpal Tunnel Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,290 R'lyeh The suppletive past tense of the English verb go, went, was originally the past tense (and past participle) of the verb wend < Old English wendan. The Old English past tense of gān 'to go' was eōde (link). This was also a case of paradigmatic suppletion. This other root for 'to go' was related to the Latin eō, īre. To make matter curiouser, the PIE root for go *ghē- (link) yields Sanskrit √ gam 'to go', gacchati 's/he goes', but Latin veniō and Greek βαινω (bainō) both with the meaning come. Ceci n'est pas un seing. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: wend BranShea #184808 05/15/2009 4:15 PM Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 9,974 Likes: 3 Land of the Flat Water LukeJavan8 Carpal Tunnel LukeJavan8 Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 9,974 Likes: 3 Land of the Flat Water Originally Posted By: BranShea Yes, welcome and so to MC Quoid. That's what made me associate it with that long and winding road. Wenden is a Dutch verb meaning a moderate change of direction. It's used in a figurative way as "wenden en keren". Context: "whichever way you wendt and turn it, it can't be done." It's an extremely poetic and colorful word. Welcome McQuoid. ----please, draw me a sheep---- Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: wend LukeJavan8 #184891 05/22/2009 4:35 PM Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 132 goofy member goofy member Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 132 "wend" was the causative of "wind", just like "set" was the causative of "sit", "raise" was the causative of "rise", and "lay" was the causative of "lie". Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: wend goofy #184893 05/22/2009 5:05 PM Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 9,974 Likes: 3 Land of the Flat Water LukeJavan8 Carpal Tunnel LukeJavan8 Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 9,974 Likes: 3 Land of the Flat Water Ah, the old "lie, lay, lain" business: shades of elementary school. ----please, draw me a sheep---- Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Moderated by  Jackie  Hop To General Topics ------  Information and announcements  Q&A about words  Wordplay and fun  Words and languages in schools  Miscellany  Weekly Themes  Looking for (writers, speakers,... (Old) Weekly themes. 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