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Man, that's cute! I wish I had tits like that... ;0) What, Long tailed or pretty sounding? 
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Hmmm, I'll pass on long-tailed, but pretty-sounding sounds good! Here we only have the tufted variety... nooooooooooooooo!
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That bird is written Capitolized. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!
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Hello there Bran: In the Netherlands, do you use a different spelling for capitalized? Here the OL ended word refers to
the building for the state government. Just curious.
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I'm trying to learn my way around. Forgive me if I've gone back too far. Re: Yankee Doodle: don't forget that it was something that *we* Yanks turned back on the Brits who tried to keep *us* from breaking away. Was it not Churchill who said re: England and the USA: two countries divided by the same language. BTW, what is "real" English?
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Was it not Churchill who said re: England and the USA: two countries divided by the same language? You're right, it was not Churchill. It was Mark Twain. Or either him or Oscar Wilde, one. Certainly we can't blame this one on Shakespeare.
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I was OK with the language apart from a few small glitches but using slang from the wrong side of the pond occasionally meant you had quite innocently said something completely rude.
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BTW, what is "real" English? If you're inclined to prescriptivism, it's what some people have written down in books telling the world how to speak and write "real" English. If you're inclined to descriptivism, it's what people say when they are using what they call English. If you're a grammatical fence-sitter, it's something between those two poles. Does that answer your question? :0)
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the building for the state government. Just curious.
Look at the date of the post closely and you'll find out.
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BTW, what is "real" English? If you're inclined to prescriptivism, it's what some people have written down in books telling the world how to speak and write "real" English. If you're inclined to descriptivism, it's what people say when they are using what they call English. If you're a grammatical fence-sitter, it's something between those two poles. Does that answer your question? :0) Actually, no; but that is because I'm never sure which of these I'm supposed to be inclined to. When the younger theologs at Westminster Seminary Philadelphia (USA) started spouting off about their new perspectivalism, I sort of got lost. Which is objective and which is subjective? Prescriptivism or Descriptivism? It is not in my nature to be a Mugwump.
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AHA! I knew someone else out there had heard of mugwumps!
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Well, it may not endear the culprit to hoi polloi; but it is certainly a less uncomfortable way to straddle a fence.
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AHA! I knew someone else out there had heard of mugwumps! mugwumps: originally mogkiomp in the native Massachusset dialect of the Algonquian meaning "great man", (mogki - "great", omp - "man"). So a person of status.
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Little did I ever know that when my grandmother
(herself, Native American) called her dog mugwump, it was
actually a compliment to the little pooch.
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I looked up this new to me word 'mugwump' and the various definitions did not make quite clear to me: does the word mean someone who can't decide which side to choose or someone who stands firm against the mainstream?
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Quinion: mugwump (notice link to 'bated breath' on the right)
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Well, it may not endear the culprit to hoi polloi; but it is certainly a less uncomfortable way to straddle a fence. is nominative plural. Following the preposition to it should be dative plural, tois pollois.
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Following the preposition to it should be dative plural
Audite, audite!
Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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Quinion: mugwump (notice link to 'bated breath' on the right) Good site! " Hence the old joke that a mugwump is a person sitting on the fence, with his mug on one side and his wump on the other." So, synonimous to fence sitter. Also new to me. turncoat, turncloack. And wump is multi-interpretable I assume.
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Baby talk (w for r) version of rump or backside.
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Following the preposition to it should be dative plural
Audite, audite! Well, Latin is not my thing either. At least I did not write "the 'hoi polloi'". I can parse Hebrew and Greek; but not Latin. There was a day in the USA when Presbyterian ministers were required to write a theological treatise in Latin as part of their trials for ordination. That expectation disappeared sometime toward the end of the 19th Century. I was required only to submit an exegetical paper on the Hebrew in a passage from the book of Isaiah; a paper on the history of the Presbyterian denomination in which I was ordained; a theological treatise in English on an assigned topic; and a written sermon on an assigned text from the New Testament; plus three oral examinations. During my days in seminary, I was unsuccessful in persuading a professor to teach a one-year course in Latin for those of us who had not been exposed to it. My wife had two years of Latin in high school; I had two years of Spanish.
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At least I did not write "the 'hoi polloi'". Which was exactly my problem. You should have written "the 'hoi polloi'". If you were using hoi polloi in Greek, the hoi means 'the' and should have been declined according to the correct omicron declension. Otherwise, as a phrase we have stolen from a foreign language, hoi doesn't mean 'the' and the phrase falls under the syntax rules of the English language, which requre use of the in this context.
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There was a day in the USA when Presbyterian ministers were required to write a theological treatise in Latin as part of their trials for ordination. That expectation disappeared sometime toward the end of the 19th Century. And also on this continent. a paper on the history of the Presbyterian denomination in which I was ordained You're a Presbyterian? For some reason I thought you were Lutheran.
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There was a day in the USA when Presbyterian ministers were required to write a theological treatise in Latin as part of their trials for ordination. That expectation disappeared sometime toward the end of the 19th Century. And also on this continent. a paper on the history of the Presbyterian denomination in which I was ordained You're a Presbyterian? For some reason I thought you were Lutheran. Well, I did have both influences in my rearing. The grandmother in whose home I grew up was Lutheran; but she respected the affiliation of my deceased mother who was Presbyterian. You might say that I had a Reformational Ecumencial rearing. My mother was Presbyterian because Chester, Illinois did not have a Christian Church (i.e. Disciples of Christ.) Her father was reared as a Primitive Baptist; but was theologically and socially liberal. He joined the Disciples and reared his family in it. When the family moved from Missouri to Illinois, there was no Disciples Church, therefore they joined the Presbyterian Church (from which the Disciples traced their origin.) My grandmother was Missouri Synod Lutheran. Her husband was Methodist. He died before I was born. They lived in Ste Genevieve, MO, a Roman Catholic town. The only Protestant church was a mission supplied by ministers from the Presbyterians and the Methodists. My father became a Presbyterian because he joined the church on a day that a Presbyterian minister was present. I know. Sounds corny. Therefore, I was raised in the Presbyterian church even after my mother's decease although my Lutheran grandmother did influence me. Maybe it's because I mentioned her Hymnal and Catechism that confused you or the fact that I went to the Lutheran School, the year after my mother's death. But that doesn't say why *I* am Presbyterian. I was converted (that's a theological issue that I won't get into here) in a Baptistic context and in that context sensed a call to ministry. Therefore, I went to a Baptistic college. Once there, however, through my studies, I became persuaded that Presbyterianism was the most faithful of the churches to the theology and government of Biblical Protestantism. Therefore, upon graduation from the Baptistic college, I enrolled in a Presbyterian seminary. During my third year, I served as pastor of a Bible Presbyterian CHurch in Coatesville, PA, after which I was ordained to serve as pastor of the Bible Presbyterian Church of Grand Junction, CO. Subsequent to that service, I have served churches with three different Presbyterian affiliations and now in a denomination known as the Associate Reformed Presbyterian Church, which is one of the older Presbyterian denominations in America. It is Calvinistic or Reformed in theology and Presbyterian in government. Its ministers still subscribe to the Westminster Confession of Faith. It was while attending the Presbyterian seminary that I became acquainted with the Rev. Dr. Francis Nigel Lee, who now resides in another of those antipode islands. VH
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/33242986@N08/3244923280/
almost had a bird picture here. Sorry. Need to keep working
on how to get it onto a thread.
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