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 Here in the Northern Plains, a channel of water runoff, similar
 to a canal, can be called a slough.
...and that'd be pronounced ...?  Yes, it is slu . 
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 Here in the Northern Plains, a channel of water runoff, similar
 to a canal, can be called a slough.
Here we would perhaps call that a 'sluice' (rhymes with juice). Maybe where you are it is a corruption of sluice rather than coming from the word for a marshy bog, slough, by dropping off the sibilant sound from the end? (More often though we would call such a thing an irrigation canal or table drain, or race (if associated with mining)).  |  |  |  
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Maybe where you are it is a corruption of sluice rather than coming from the word for a marshy bog, slough, by dropping off the sibilant sound from the end?I doubt it. The dictionaries don't agree with you. There are many sloughs in California mainly in the delta region (link  and link ). 
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i]Maybe where you are it is a corruption of sluice rather than coming from the word for a marshy bog, slough, by dropping off the sibilant sound from the end?[/i]
 I doubt it. The dictionaries don't agree with you. There are many sloughs in California mainly in the delta region ([url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slough_(wetland)]link
Thanks for the links, especially the one with the fantastic picture of the Stockton Slough.  The slough's here are also named, and, while not as large as the pictured one, some carry small boats from one place to another. And my dictionary agrees with you, but I am yet to check on-line ones. Again thanks for the picture: really good.
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I have not read all the posts in this thread so I may be speaking out of turn.  However, I am surprised that no one threw this at the group:  GHOUGHPHTHEIGHTTEEAU
 What does that spell phonetically?
 
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I have not read all the posts in this thread so I may be speaking out of turn.  However, I am surprised that no one threw this at the group:  GHOUGHPHTHEIGHTTEEAU
 What does that spell phonetically?
It spells POTATO. Here is the break down: GH OUGH PHTH EIGH TTE EAU If GH   stands for P as in   Hiccough If OUGH stands for O as in   Dough If PHTH stands for T as in   Phthisis If EIGH stands for A as in   Neighbour If TTE  stands for T as in   Gazette If EAU  stands for O as in   Plateau Vaughn Hathaway |  |  |  
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... and that'd be pronounced ...?
 I've only heard the /slu/ pronunciation used in the States.
I grew up in the central Mississippi River valley in southern Illinois.  The Mississippi has many such sloughs (slu).  Some are dead-ended; others are like linked ponds.  In the 1840s and 1850s a series of large floods changed the channel of the Mississippi south of present-day Ste. Genevieve, Missouri, north of present-day Chester, Illinois. Prior to the 1840s, what is today Kaskaskia Island was a somewhat long peninsula of land between the Mississippi on the west and the Kaskaskia or Okaw River on the east. Following the floods, the Mississippi cut across the peninsula and took over the channel of the Okaw forming two very large 90 degree turns. Separating today's Kaskaskia Island which is still a part of Illinois from the State of Missouri is a series of sloughs (slu-s), nearly all of which are navigable with small craft. By the way, a famous English novel includes a slough in its narrative, the Slough of Despond. I don't know if Bunyan pronounced it slu or sluff. The novel is *Pilgrim's Progress* and the author was John Bunyan. Vaughn Hathaway |  |  |  
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>I don't know if Bunyan pronounced it slu or sluff. I don't know how Bunyan pronounced it either (or either), seeing as hough  how Bunyan is still dead; but the OED pronounces it slow (rhymes with bough), sloo only as a dialect form, and refers to slew  as a US or Canada spelling/pronunciation.They drew near to a very Miry Slough... The name of the Slow was Dispond.  - Bunyan  (1678) [OED2] NB: regarding the variable spellings in Bunyan -   link -joe (flat foot floogie with a floy-floy) friday 
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By the way, a famous English novel includes a slough in its narrative, the Slough of Despond. I don't know if Bunyan pronounced it slu or sluff. The novel is *Pilgrim's Progress* and the author was John Bunyan.Yes I did mention it above I believe. Bunyan probably pronounced it to rhyme with cow. Slew (IPA slu) seems to be dialectical North American for a canal. The English bog is a (IPA) slau. |  |  |  
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If GH   stands for P as in   Hiccough
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I have not read all the posts in this thread so I may be speaking out of turn.  However, I am surprised that no one threw this at the group:  GHOUGHPHTHEIGHTTEEAU
 What does that spell phonetically?
It spells POTATO. Here is the break down: GH OUGH PHTH EIGH TTE EAU If GH   stands for P as in   Hiccough If OUGH stands for O as in   Dough If PHTH stands for T as in   Phthisis If EIGH stands for A as in   Neighbour If TTE  stands for T as in   Gazette If EAU  stands for O as in   Plateau Vaughn Hathaway WOW.  I had not visited this post in awhile, so missed this.  Wish I was still  teaching would use it as a test or homework assignment. 
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GHOUGHPHTHEIGHTTEEAU
 What does that spell phonetically?
It spells POTATO. Here is the break down: GH OUGH PHTH EIGH TTE EAU If GH   stands for P as in   Hiccough If OUGH stands for O as in   Dough If PHTH stands for T as in   Phthisis If EIGH stands for A as in   Neighbour If TTE  stands for T as in   Gazette If EAU  stands for O as in   Plateau Vaughn HathawayAlternatively, it spells FORTY-TWO (the Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe and Everything): GH OUGH PHTH EIGH TTE EAU If GH stands for   F as in Enough If OUGH stands for OR* as in Ought If PHTH stands for T as in Phthisis If EIGH stands for Y as in Leigh If TTE stands for  T as in Gazette If EAU stands for  WO (OO) as in Beautiful** *Southern British pronunciation ** Regional British pronunciation ("bootiful") |  |  |  
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now that's linguistic yoga if I ever saw it!  
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It's no wonder so many have difficulty with English. 
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Yes,I agreed according to Wikipedia they are ten.Thanks for sharing link.I visit this and find some good information. |  |  |  
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