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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Page 3 of 3 1 2 3 Re: dropping letters as one writes The Pook #179049 09/05/08 11:26 PM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803  Originally Posted By: The Pook Whilst on different pronunciations, it's interesting that North Americans say Lootenn't for Lieutenant whilst English people say Leftenant. I would say Lyewtenant or L'tenant. Don't the English pronounce it one way for Navy lieutenants and the other for Army lieutenants? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: dropping letters as one writes Faldage #179054 09/06/08 01:02 AM Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,067 Tasmania The Pook old hand The Pook old hand Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,067 Tasmania  Originally Posted By: Faldage  Originally Posted By: The Pook Whilst on different pronunciations, it's interesting that North Americans say Lootenn't for Lieutenant whilst English people say Leftenant. I would say Lyewtenant or L'tenant. Don't the English pronounce it one way for Navy lieutenants and the other for Army lieutenants? From wikipedia: "British naval tradition preserved an intermediate pronunciation: /lə'tɛnənt/. This is not recognized as current by the OED, however, and by 1954 the Royal Canadian Navy, at least, regarded it as "obsolescent" even while regarding "the army's 'LEF-tenant'" to be "a corruption of the worst sort"." There is no certainty as to where the labial 'f' or 'v' ending variants on the first syllable came from. OED rejects the idea that it was in Middle English from a French variant on lieu, loef. It seems more likely that it was a spelling pronunciation because 'u' and 'v' used to be interchangeable, but there is no consensus on that either. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: dropping letters as one writes Myridon #179055 09/06/08 01:10 AM Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,067 Tasmania The Pook old hand The Pook old hand Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,067 Tasmania  Originally Posted By: Myridon  Originally Posted By: The Pook boatswain (bosun); rowlock (rollock); I've always wondered why we have bosun but not coxsun (coxun?). Rowlock is "pronounced" oarlock in the US, but do you mean rollock more like ralick? I'm not sure from your spelling what is meant. In my speech, I can barely distinguish between row lock, rollock, and roll lock. I would say roll'ck (rɔlək). You would probably pronounce that rahl'ck. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: dropping letters as one writes The Pook #179060 09/07/08 08:13 PM Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont I always set the other letters down before I try to write another. formerly known as etaoin... Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Page 3 of 3 1 2 3 Moderated by  Jackie  Hop To General Topics ------  Information and announcements  Q&A about words  Wordplay and fun  Words and languages in schools  Miscellany  Weekly Themes  Looking for (writers, speakers,... (Old) Weekly themes. (have been... ------  Words from medicine  Beheading words  Meta-words  Words from classical mythology  Animal Safari  Words with unusual etymologies  Eponyms or words derived from p...  Loanwords from German  English as a global language Print Thread Switch to Threaded Mode Show Likes Link Copied to Clipboard View Profile Private Message Website Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Website Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary Forum Statistics Forums16 Topics13,913 Posts229,580 Members9,187 Most Online3,341 Dec 9th, 2011 Newest Members Karin, JeffMackwood, artguitar, Jim_W, Rdbuffalo 9,187 Registered Users Who's Online Now 0 members (), 332 guests, and 0 robots. Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod Top Posters(30 Days) wofahulicodoc 35 A C Bowden 23 LukeJavan8 6 Top Posters wwh 13,858 Faldage 13,803 Jackie 11,613 wofahulicodoc 10,713 tsuwm 10,542 LukeJavan8 9,931 Buffalo Shrdlu 7,210 AnnaStrophic 6,511 Wordwind 6,296 of troy 5,400

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