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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Page 2 of 5 1 2 3 4 5 Re: Grammar problem tsuwm #178550 08/07/08 04:42 AM Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,067 Tasmania The Pook old hand The Pook old hand Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,067 Tasmania  Originally Posted By: tsuwm yeahbut, in the interests of parallelism, living is learning. ...or rather learning is living (with or without the fully) would be the parallel with the original quote. They are not saying "to live is to learn" which is already a known aphorism, but to learn is to live. To me the quote as given SOUNDS smoother than "to learn is to live fully" which sounds more formal and stilted. But I agree that the infinitive plus participle does lack a certain grammatical symmetry. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Grammar problem The Pook #178557 08/07/08 08:01 PM Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,295 Netherlands, the Hague BranShea Carpal Tunnel BranShea Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,295 Netherlands, the Hague Our old school rhyme used to be: (dating from the deep 19th century) "My playing is learning To learn is to play So why would my learning cause any dismay?" That's a fancy translation from the original and if it is OK grammatically I'm not sure. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Grammar problem KateinNZ #178559 08/07/08 10:54 PM Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 390 कहीं &... L latishya enthusiast latishya enthusiast L Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 390 कहीं &... Do New Zealand government institutions like schools have to put up slogans in Maori as well as English, like in Canada where everything has to be in English and French(better?)? Maybe they could put up the Maori version in big letters so that everybody sees it first. Fewer people would be able to critique its grammar and many might think it sounds lovely without having any idea what it means (cf Urewera, Urenui, Tutaekuri) Last edited by latishya; 08/08/08 11:57 AM. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Grammar problem latishya #178562 08/08/08 03:15 AM Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 3 K KateinNZ OP stranger OP KateinNZ stranger K Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 3 Many institutions do have Maori names or mottos, but I'm pretty sure it's not a requirement - certainly not for schools. Still, good idea - distract people away from the crummy grammar with something else that sounds much nicer! Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Grammar problem latishya #178565 08/08/08 10:13 AM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803  Originally Posted By: latishya put up slogans in Maori as well as English, like in Quebec? I'm going to let this one go. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Grammar problem latishya #178579 08/08/08 04:55 PM Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 132 G goofy member goofy member G Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 132  Originally Posted By: latishya Canada where everything has to be in English and French I think it's only in Québec where outdoor commercial signs are required to have French text in a larger type than the English. btw, the territory of Nunavut has 3 official languages: English, French and "Inuit language". Government publications are in Inuktitut and Inuinnaqtun. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Uu Kanata! goofy #178581 08/08/08 07:48 PM Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,290 R'lyeh zmjezhd Carpal Tunnel zmjezhd Carpal Tunnel Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,290 R'lyeh Government publications are in Inuktitut and Inuinnaqtun. Boy howdy. I'd love to get me some Canucktikut gummint brochures on snow ... (The Canadian national hymn in Inuktitut: link). Uu Kanata! Nangmini nunavut! Piqujatii nalattiaqpavut. Angiglivalliajuti, Sanngijulutillu. Nangiqpugu, Uu Kanata Mianiripluti. Uu Kanata! nunatsia! Nangiqpugu mianiripluti, Uu Kanata, salagijauquna! Ceci n'est pas un seing. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Uu Kanata! zmjezhd #178582 08/08/08 10:38 PM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803  Originally Posted By: zmjezhd [ Uu Kanata! Nangmini nunavut! Piqujatii nalattiaqpavut. Angiglivalliajuti, Sanngijulutillu. Nangiqpugu, Uu Kanata Mianiripluti. Uu Kanata! nunatsia! Nangiqpugu mianiripluti, Uu Kanata, salagijauquna! Translation: Oh, Canada Snow falling from the sky. Snow on the ground. Snow dissolving into the sea. Snow building up on sea ice. Snow compressed to a crust. Snow compressed into ice. Snow blowing in the air, oh, Canada. Snow melting in the summer heat. Oh, Canada. Snow swirling on the ground. Snow blowing in the air. Snow melting in the summer heat. Oh, Canada, snow covering the igloos. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Uu Kanata! Faldage #178583 08/08/08 10:46 PM Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,290 R'lyeh zmjezhd Carpal Tunnel zmjezhd Carpal Tunnel Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,290 R'lyeh Oh, Canada, snow covering the igloos. LOLsheep! Ceci n'est pas un seing. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Uu Kanata! zmjezhd #178588 08/09/08 07:19 AM Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 2,154 British Columbia, Canada Z Zed Pooh-Bah Zed Pooh-Bah Z Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 2,154 British Columbia, Canada I would resent that but I don't have time. I have to go feed the sled dogs. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Page 2 of 5 1 2 3 4 5 Moderated by  Jackie  Hop To General Topics ------  Information and announcements  Q&A about words  Wordplay and fun  Words and languages in schools  Miscellany  Weekly Themes  Looking for (writers, speakers,... (Old) Weekly themes. 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